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A country run like hell by Filipinos

Started by carpediem, July 15, 2010, 11:35:04 AM

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carpediem

I would rather have a country run like hell by Filipinos than a country run like heaven by the Americans, because however a bad Filipino government might be, we can always change it. - Manuel L. Quezon

pinoybrusko

I disagree. If Manuel L. Quezon didn't fight our sovereignty baka 51st state na ng Amerika ang Pinas. Hinde na tayo magkakaproblema na makapunta ng Amerika ng paghihintay ng matagal sa US Embassy ng Visa. See how Manila (pictures I post in general chat "the great manila yesterday" ) when Americans came, disiplinado at malinis ang manila. See Baguio city now, americans were the ones who designed it to be full of variety of pine trees pero ano ginawa ng mga pinoys pinutol ang mga trees at ginawang malaking golf course. tsk tsk. May mga bad side ang americans dito like sa Olongapo prostitutes pero ano hitsura ng Subic ngayon.

judE_Law

highly politicized na kasi ang bansa natin tapos napaka-undiscipline pa ng maraming pinoy..
marami sa mga politiko at negosyante natin, mas iniisip ang kapakanan ng sarili kesa kapakanan ng lahat at ng bayan.

tungkol naman sa magiging state ng amerika ang Pinas.. walang matibay na rason para tanggihan tayo na maging state.. in fact nagtayo na nga ng mga base ang US dito at pinaalis lang natin.. anong bansa ba ngayon ang ayaw lumawak ang kanilang nasasakupan? strategically, napaka-ganda ng pwesto ng Pinas sa Mapa.. kung makukuha nila Pinas, both ends of  the world eh kanila..

pinoybrusko

kung hinde pede maging state ang Pinas ng Amerika pede pa din maging tulad ng Guam

Reid

I thnk mas progressive sana ang Philippines ngayon. Mas gusto ko pa yung run like heaven by the Americans.

judE_Law

Quote from: Kilo 1000 on July 15, 2010, 10:35:51 PM
Quote from: judE_Law on July 15, 2010, 08:02:33 PM
highly politicized na kasi ang bansa natin tapos napaka-undiscipline pa ng maraming pinoy..
marami sa mga politiko at negosyante natin, mas iniisip ang kapakanan ng sarili kesa kapakanan ng lahat at ng bayan.

tungkol naman sa magiging state ng amerika ang Pinas.. walang matibay na rason para tanggihan tayo na maging state.. in fact nagtayo na nga ng mga base ang US dito at pinaalis lang natin.. anong bansa ba ngayon ang ayaw lumawak ang kanilang nasasakupan? strategically, napaka-ganda ng pwesto ng Pinas sa Mapa.. kung makukuha nila Pinas, both ends of  the world eh kanila..

I was looking for a  better source pero economics talaga yung nagpush for the separation. Both Roxas and Quezon actually pushed for independence which was actually approved by US congress.
http://countrystudies.us/philippines/20.htm

"American sugar beet, tobacco, and dairy farmers feared the competition of low-tariff insular products, and the hardships suffered in a deepening depression in the early 1930s led them to seek protection through a severance of the colonial relationship."

Actually the USA has a lot of bases elsewhere like Turkey and Japan. Obviously they would have gained more by making japan as a state than the philippines. but they didn't.



siyempre tutol ang japan na maging state siya.. eh isa rin silang mananakop diba?
unlike turkey and japan.. ang pilipinas hindi ganun kalakas ang ating sandatahan.. yung magkaroon lang sila ng base sa Japan at turkey eh edge na sa kanila yun.

judE_Law

let us not underestimate what our future generations can do.. i think we must do something for the younger generations.. ika nga ng pambansang bayani "ang kabataan ang pag-asa ng bayan", pero kung hahayaan nga naman nating nasa lansangan at walang pinag-aralan ang mga kabataan.. ano pa nga ba ang aasahan natin para sa ating bansa in the future? 'wag na tayong masyadong umasa sa gobyerno.. tumulong tayo sa mga kabataan in our own little way.


carpediem

Quote from: Kilo 1000 on July 16, 2010, 06:26:59 PM
This country is doomed. No more heroes left to fight for it.

Maybe not. Heroes spring from extreme circumstances. If you would compare the current state of the country relative to other points in its history where there were many great heroes, now is not an extreme circumstance.

Mr.Yos0

hindi pa naman masasama lahat ng Pilipino.

pinoybrusko

uu naman pero sa news ang nababalita yung puro masasama  ;D kaya akala ng nakapanood kabuuan na ng Pinas iyon  ;D

angelo


Mr.Yos0

^ Hmmm.. I'm starting to think that Filipinos by nature, are bad.. or magnanakaw talaga. Hay, sana dulot lang ng sobrang panunood ng current events sa TV.

joshgroban

Quote from: Mr.Yos0 on August 04, 2010, 10:35:29 PM
^ Hmmm.. I'm starting to think that Filipinos by nature, are bad.. or magnanakaw talaga. Hay, sana dulot lang ng sobrang panunood ng current events sa TV.
not naman lahat....
still probably a few who are trying to live a God fearing life and a decent life for that matter

pinoybrusko

Quote from: Mr.Yos0 on August 04, 2010, 10:35:29 PM
^ Hmmm.. I'm starting to think that Filipinos by nature, are bad.. or magnanakaw talaga. Hay, sana dulot lang ng sobrang panunood ng current events sa TV.

humans not only filipinos are self centered in nature. This also happens to all countries in the world. Makasarili talaga ang bawat tao. Nagbabago lang iyon pag guided by faith and belief in God.

angelo

Quote from: Mr.Yos0 on August 04, 2010, 10:35:29 PM
^ Hmmm.. I'm starting to think that Filipinos by nature, are bad.. or magnanakaw talaga. Hay, sana dulot lang ng sobrang panunood ng current events sa TV.

human nature na magkaroon ng sin.
kadalasan din kumapit lang sa patalim. masyadong mahirap talaga ang buhay. imagine inflation rate at 5%.