Para sa lahat ng masama ang loob...

[pong]

like physical wounds, there will always be scars... hurts that are forever etched in you. but like physical wounds too, a scar won't hurt anymore, unless it will be traumatized again...

pero doc, paano natin malalaman kung kailan tayo madadala, diba?


^darkstar13: na-try mo na ba hanapin yung closure? sabi mo close friends muna kayo bago naging kayo. so, tiyak may mga common friends kayo para hanapin yung closure na yun. mahirap yang pinagdaraanan mo, nanghuhula ka ng dahilan. pero, apart from all heartaches, try to move on

[ctan]

siguro dun na papasok yung issue of trust... :-)

[pong]

siguro dun na papasok yung issue of trust... :-)

doc, ang ambiguous ng word na trust. hehehe

[ctan]

ewan pero for me, it will always be ambiguous. on dealing with it, since when you trust you really do not have any assurance of something you expect to happen, it even adds up to the ambiguity of the case. the act of trusting is in its wholeness, ambiguous. yet it isn't blind. for in trusting, you hold on to something you know your heart you dearly cherish.

[pong]

ewan pero for me, it will always be ambiguous. on dealing with it, since when you trust you really do not have any assurance of something you expect to happen, it even adds up to the ambiguity of the case. the act of trusting is in its wholeness, ambiguous. yet it isn't blind. for in trusting, you hold on to something you know your heart you dearly cherish.

trust, is not in itself or at all equates to confidence, or maybe faith. we always put our faith in God, but since faith is of higher confidence than trust, we also don't expect anything in return.

we are always with confidence when we share our life with our friends, but that confidence should not be confused with faith. we could be faithful with our loved ones, be it our parents, brothers or sisters or even your love of your life: but that faith would not be surpassed with the expression of faith that alone be given to God.


^ DOC, NAPALABAN AKO NG ENGLISH SA IYO!!! :~(

[darkstar13]

^darkstar13: na-try mo na ba hanapin yung closure? sabi mo close friends muna kayo bago naging kayo. so, tiyak may mga common friends kayo para hanapin yung closure na yun. mahirap yang pinagdaraanan mo, nanghuhula ka ng dahilan. pero, apart from all heartaches, try to move on

for some reasons, as much as possible, i do not like involving other friends sa issue ko with a friend.

pero God knows I tried my best.
ilang beses ko na sinabi sa sarili ko na ayaw ko na,
pero eto pa rin ako, kahit ayoko na, i am faintly hoping for a redemption.

Inaway ko na, nakipagbati, nagsorry, nagpaawa effect, nagpapansin, nakiusap.
wala eh. pati sarili ko inaway ko na rin, pero wa-epek, haha.

hindi ko talaga alam kung paano mag-move on.
kaya minsan, ayoko na rin maging close sa isang tao.

sabi nga ng best friend kong babae (sinabi nya sa akin nung magkaaway kami):
"This pain is too much for one heart"

ang drama haha.



kumain na lang tayo.
tanghalian na

[vortex]

OT:
Hello Guys, a blessed weekday to all!
Wala lang share ko lang, I attended a Retreat(It's called Encounter with Christ Retreat) last weekend and grabe, it was an awesome experience. Receiving God makes me feel free from all the pains inside me. Lahat ng burdens, nawala. Yung mga sama ng loob na sinabi ko dito sa thread, nailabas ko lahat pati yung mga itinago ko na tumagal na for Decades. hehehe. Hindi lang tinik ang nabunot sa dibdib ko, parang pako na ata. hahaha...Ayun lang, nag-share lang sa inyo. Kaya guys, if ever you need and want to erradicate the grievances in your life, just seek God. If you are having a hard time, maraming nandito sa forum na makakatulong sa inyo. Yun lang god bless!

ECR pala tawag niyo; sa amin naman EGR... kakaconduct lang namin sa Ifugao nito...

actually EGR talaga siya, nabago ko lang pala yung name. hehehe...Encounter God Retreat! Napansin mo pa iyon...hahaha...Nice.

[pong]

^darkstar13: na-try mo na ba hanapin yung closure? sabi mo close friends muna kayo bago naging kayo. so, tiyak may mga common friends kayo para hanapin yung closure na yun. mahirap yang pinagdaraanan mo, nanghuhula ka ng dahilan. pero, apart from all heartaches, try to move on

for some reasons, as much as possible, i do not like involving other friends sa issue ko with a friend.

pero God knows I tried my best.
ilang beses ko na sinabi sa sarili ko na ayaw ko na,
pero eto pa rin ako, kahit ayoko na, i am faintly hoping for a redemption.

Inaway ko na, nakipagbati, nagsorry, nagpaawa effect, nagpapansin, nakiusap.
wala eh. pati sarili ko inaway ko na rin, pero wa-epek, haha.

hindi ko talaga alam kung paano mag-move on.
kaya minsan, ayoko na rin maging close sa isang tao.

sabi nga ng best friend kong babae (sinabi nya sa akin nung magkaaway kami):
"This pain is too much for one heart"

ang drama haha.



kumain na lang tayo.
tanghalian na

hehehe... minsan gusto ko nang ipagtapat sa isa kong friend na babae na may gusto ako sa kanya kaso ayokong magdusa nang sobra-sobra na pag naging kami at magbe-break kami... tsk tsk. iniisip ko na mas maganda pa rin na magkaibigan kami. minsan pag sinasabi niya: "ang kapal ng mukha mo hindi ako magkakagusto sa iyo!" sinasabi ko na lang "tigas ng mukha neto, hindi rin ako magkakagusto sa iyo wahahahaha!" pero sa loob-loob ko nasasaktan ako

ganun talaga, tsong, at tiyak bibigyan ka rin ng Diyos ng mas magandang makakasama sa buhay. kung iisipi't iisipin mo yan sa matagal na panahon, ikaw rin ang masasaktan

[vortex]

hindi nga siguro talaga possible yung forget,
pero alam mo yun feeling na hindi ka na nasasaktan kapag naaalala mo yung tao,
siguro yun ang forget dun -- nakalimutan na ng puso mo yung masakit na naramdaman mo.

i do believe time heals all wounds.
the question for me is how long would that take.

Depende rin siguro sa degree ng offense na nagawa sa iyo iyon. Ako rin parang ikaw, I easily forget pero kapag naaalala ko yung nagawa sa akin,meron pa rin yung feeling na hindi mo maintindihan. May times naman na kapag naisip ko natatawa ako kasi nagawa sa akin iyon, may times na ayun parang bumabalik pa rin ang galit. Kasi naiisip ko naman bakit nya nagawa iyon. But try na lang siguro i-divert sa ibang bagay kapag naaalala iyon. Hindi maganda effect kapag nag-linger sa thoughts na ganun eh. Baka kung ano pa mangyari. hehehe

[ctan]

@pong
if it doesn't equate with confidence, then how do you explain the semblance of the feelings when you trust, when you place your confidence in, when you put your faith in, to someone? such words - trust, confidence, faith, hope - are all abstract. when you decide to do one, you have to give yourself your chance to commit on someone without any assurance... yet i say it again, committing on something which isn't blind. ay wait, did you say that faith is of higher confidence than trust? so it is indeed still a form of confidence.

NOSEBLEED din ako! hahaha!



@E
who are you referring to?;-)

[vortex]

^darkstar13: na-try mo na ba hanapin yung closure? sabi mo close friends muna kayo bago naging kayo. so, tiyak may mga common friends kayo para hanapin yung closure na yun. mahirap yang pinagdaraanan mo, nanghuhula ka ng dahilan. pero, apart from all heartaches, try to move on

for some reasons, as much as possible, i do not like involving other friends sa issue ko with a friend.

pero God knows I tried my best.
ilang beses ko na sinabi sa sarili ko na ayaw ko na,
pero eto pa rin ako, kahit ayoko na, i am faintly hoping for a redemption.

Inaway ko na, nakipagbati, nagsorry, nagpaawa effect, nagpapansin, nakiusap.
wala eh. pati sarili ko inaway ko na rin, pero wa-epek, haha.

hindi ko talaga alam kung paano mag-move on.
kaya minsan, ayoko na rin maging close sa isang tao.

sabi nga ng best friend kong babae (sinabi nya sa akin nung magkaaway kami):
"This pain is too much for one heart"

ang drama haha.



kumain na lang tayo.
tanghalian na

Hay naku Mr. Darkstar, kung ayaw nya makipagbati sa iyo wag mo muna ipilit. Baka lalo lang siya lumayo, isipin pa nya artistahin siya para suyuin mo nang ganun!!! Hahaha...Give him time, space, water, and earth...time will come na siya mismo ang lalapit sa iyo, baka hindi lang siya handa pa ngayon. At least you made your move to mend your friendship di ba? And relationship parang libro iyan eh, madalas nasa last page ang CLosure... Hintayin mong umabot kayo dun. hahaha...ano ba sinabi ko, kung ano-ano kasi naiisip ko ngayon eh.

[joshgroban]

@pong
if it doesn't equate with confidence, then how do you explain the semblance of the feelings when you trust, when you place your confidence in, when you put your faith in, to someone? such words - trust, confidence, faith, hope - are all abstract. when you decide to do one, you have to give yourself your chance to commit on someone without any assurance... yet i say it again, committing on something which isn't blind. ay wait, did you say that faith is of higher confidence than trust? so it is indeed still a form of confidence.

NOSEBLEED din ako! hahaha!



@E
who are you referring to?;-)

haist tulo uhog....sa inglis....reseta ba yan doc....


lilipas din ang sama ng loob ko

[pong]

@pong
if it doesn't equate with confidence, then how do you explain the semblance of the feelings when you trust, when you place your confidence in, when you put your faith in, to someone? such words - trust, confidence, faith, hope - are all abstract. when you decide to do one, you have to give yourself your chance to commit on someone without any assurance... yet i say it again, committing on something which isn't blind. ay wait, did you say that faith is of higher confidence than trust? so it is indeed still a form of confidence.

NOSEBLEED din ako! hahaha!



@E
who are you referring to?;-)

St. Paul has written - now these three will remain: faith, hope and love -- and the greatest of these is love.

Faith, in its real essence, is the belief that everything will be done according to what you believe in. Faith is encumbered within reason, perhaps due to the belief itself can't be explained or proven by the hypothesis of reason. We have tenets to guide us, but these does not compel its followers to define faith itself. Faith does not yield confidence, but mere belief. Those beliefs are not strictly guided by the definitions that will result to achieve the things that you have believed can be attained. That's why somehow, we are deeply hurt to our loved ones when they shattered our faith because in the first place, they don't have the particular power to provide reason why they should be given faith after all.

The question is - does faith in itself confidence? I don't think so.
Is faith worth of committing? Commitment requires steadfastness, but faith does not. So, again, I don't think so.
Is faith an assurance of having confidence? Partly yes. But that's another topic.

Hope is synonymous to expecting something. If it's yours, then, it's yours. Is it a belief? Yes. But clinging to hope alone will yield nothing. That's why most of our marginalized people beget nothing because all of their hope is vain. Which goes back to the concept of faith.

Love is extremely different. It does not ask for faith, commitment, hope and it is endless. You must not ask faith to your wife, because we are not God. We must not ask strict confidence that they will commit to us, because love is not bound with any law created by man. It has no rules. It does not hesitate, contemplate or ask for justifications. Unlike faith and hope that are still ambiguous or uncertain, love is undefined as well, but it is endless. It is unconditional.




NOSEBLEED daw, weeeeeeeeeeh?

[ctan]

nalolost na ako. biglang pumasok si love. hahahaha! :-D

anyway, the subject matter has been discussed well naman na. :-)

OT: oo, epistaxis at its best!

[pong]

nalolost na ako. biglang pumasok si love. hahahaha! :-D

anyway, the subject matter has been discussed well naman na. :-)

OT: oo, epistaxis at its best!

weeeeelll, you were the one who mentioned faith and hope are mere feelings so i've just compared it with love hehehehe


from now on, i'll gonna talk with doc in straight english, unless he ceases otherwise.