Inangkat ko lang mula sa kabilang forum para malaman ang opinion ng mga PGGer dito.
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Naniniwala ka ba na ang bawat sandali nang buhay nang tao ay itinakda o kung tawagin nilang destiny.
Halimbawa noong maliit pa ka pa, nakatakda na kung kailan ka unang magsasalita, tatawa, maglalakad, matutong bumasa at sumulat, atbp..
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Naniniwala ka sa Freewill na tayo ay malayang sumulat nang ating kapalaran.
Sa bawat yugto nang ating buhay, unti unti tayong nahaharap sa mga mahihirap na katanungan.
Irerelate ko yung isang ito,
Naalala ko yung nabasa ko sa yahoo answer na mga ilang taong nakalipas
Kinukwestiyon niya kung may Freewill ba talaga ang tao sapagkat tayo raw ay may kanya kanyang DNA.
Ayon sa kanya, ang DNA (Deoxyribonucleic acid) ay binubuo nang mga chromosomes na kung saan ay nandito ang ating mga genetic code.
Ang genetic code or genetic information ay ang mga traits o mga characteristics na namana natin sa ating mga magulang o sa mga ancestors.
Sa madaling salita, maaring mamana natin ang mga kaugalian o paraan nang pagkilos nang ating mga ninuno.
Ipinagpapalagay niya sa ganitong proseso ay inihahalintulad tayo sa isang kompyuter na sumusunod lang sa mga instructions sa ating DNA.
Yes, nakakagulat ang kanyang pananaw pero ibinase niya ang kanyang assumption scientifically.
Sumasang-ayon ba kayo dito?
Sa kabilang dako, maraming mga tanong sa buhay natin ang nanatiling misteryo.
1.Pagbabago nang itinakdang kapalaran?, kung ang kahapon, ngayon at bukas ay itinakda na, paano magkakaroon nang lugar sa tinatawag nating pagbabago?
2. Tayo nga ba talaga ay nakakagawa nang mga desisyon sa buhay natin para gumawa nang sariling kapalaran o masunod ang itinakdang kapalaran?
a good example is, a patient suffering from cancer that survives, it is his destiny to live and not his free will, right?
What we are and what we do are just products of our own composition, meaning, the biology and chemistry of our body. Our flesh are from cells. Our traits are from our genes. Memories are nothing but arrangement of brain cells and stored electrical charges. Our actions are merely electrical signals formed by chemical reactions of our organs.
So strictly speaking, we do not have free will.
i believe it is an 80-20 split between will and destiny. Destiny can always be a reaction/consequence.
God's has given us our own freewill pero alam nya na lahat ng bagay na gagawin natin simula ng pinanganak tayo. ;)
ang masasabi ko lang, may mga moment kung minsan na hindi natin hawak ang isang sitwasyon. siguro yun ang destiny.
sa ibang instances, may power tayo para gawin ang anumang bagay
eto Gauge ko...
80 % Free Will
20% Destiny
do you believe that even before our birth, our destiny has been set na?
Quote from: pinoybrusko on July 15, 2010, 02:54:04 PM
eto Gauge ko...
80 % Free Will
20% Destiny
Agree ako dito...we build our destiny base on our choices and we have that choice because of free will
para sakin, "gwapo" feeling lang din to. depende sa nararamdaman at pinagdadaanan mo sa sandaling binirahan ka ng "free will vs destiny"
pwede mo kasi sabihin na yung isa dyan ay illusion lang
a fabricated "destiny" because of your free will or vice versa...
am I even making sense? lol
ako na malabong kausap XD
Quote from: Mr.Yos0 on December 11, 2010, 12:00:15 AM
do you believe that even before our birth, our destiny has been set na?
agree ako dito but we still have our choice if we want to make it happen
Quote from: Mr.Yos0 on December 11, 2010, 12:00:15 AM
do you believe that even before our birth, our destiny has been set na?
possible pero because of free will, it can be changed. Time also is a factor of change.
Your destiny is the product of your free will.
Naniniwala ako na tayu gumagawa ng sarili nating kapalaran :)
Quote from: Yon9 on January 16, 2011, 11:36:23 AM
Your destiny is the product of your free will.
Naniniwala ako na tayu gumagawa ng sarili nating kapalaran :)
this is an oxymoron. :-)
how can something predestined (which is destiny) be something determined by current actions (freewill)? in other words, a thesis and an anti-thesis being in synergism just doesn't make sense at all. it's always a clash and there must be a resolution. :-) destiny and free will are both opposite terms. unless one can give me a sound explanation of their synergism, this perspective about destiny and freewill remains an oxymoron to me. :-)
^ How about thinking of it in terms of the multiverse hypothesis?
I have a college friend who believes in this multiuniverse system. We used to argue way back in college about that. I don't believe in a multiuniverse system kasi. :-) hehe. But I'm open to persuasions carpediem. Hehehe!
No I'm not saying that I believe in multiple universes. It's just one of the many hypotheses.
In the multiverse, there are possibly infinitely many versions of our universe. You and I exist in some of them, but not on most, since we may have died early, or may not have been born in those in the first place.
Free will in this context would be our chosen actions in each universe in the set of all universes.
is this the same as the parallel universe?
Yes. Usually kasi when people think of parallel universe, parang dalawa lang, our own and a parallel one.
There are actually many hypotheses. For example in one version, universes don't have the same physical constants (gravity, speed of light, etc.). Parang based on probabilities lahat.
Wala ba tayong theoretical physicists dito or someone who is knowledgeable on quantum theory? hehehe
(http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/7968/philosoraptorfreewill.png)
Yeah, it would be better if someone expert in that field can explain what parallel universe means. :-)
and about the image, hmmm.... hindi ba lahat ng bagay spring out from probabilities? :-) before we do something, it is already a probability that we will do it. another of the probabilities is that we would do otherwise. :-)
free will exists hinde dahil sa atoms and particles which comprises the physical body of the human being. Remember, we believe that human is comprised of body and soul :)
Quote from: ctan on January 16, 2011, 11:41:46 AM
Quote from: Yon9 on January 16, 2011, 11:36:23 AM
Your destiny is the product of your free will.
Naniniwala ako na tayu gumagawa ng sarili nating kapalaran :)
this is an oxymoron. :-)
how can something predestined (which is destiny) be something determined by current actions (freewill)? in other words, a thesis and an anti-thesis being in synergism just doesn't make sense at all. it's always a clash and there must be a resolution. :-) destiny and free will are both opposite terms. unless one can give me a sound explanation of their synergism, this perspective about destiny and freewill remains an oxymoron to me. :-)
not unless you think that your destiny is your goal, then this oxymoron will no longer be called as such.
I believe there is no freewill in the absolute sense. But we have a certain power to exercise our own will given a circumstance.
^ oo nga naman. it can be an illusion as you travel in your destiny.
it may be limited, but there will always be a choice.
Quote from: angelo on May 03, 2011, 10:35:31 PM
it can be an illusion as you travel in your destiny.
i'll buy this idea. :-)