Got this from another blog. As of 2007, a survey by the PRC and CHED showed the top 20 universities from all over the Philippines. The basis of the survey is the national licensure examinations from 1999 to 2007.
1. University of the Philippines ( Diliman Campus / Luzon )
2. University of the Philippines ( Los Banos Campus/ Luzon )
3. University of the Philippines ( Manila Campus / Luzon )
4. Silliman University ( Dumaguete City / Visayas )
5. Ateneo deDavao University ( Davao /Mindanao )
6. Ateneo de Manila University ( Manila / Luzon )
7. University of Sto . Tomas ( Manila / Luzon )
8. Mindanao State University ( Iligan Institute ofTech/ Mindanao )
9. Pamantasan ng Lungsod ng Maynila ( Manila/Luzon )
10. Saint Louis University ( Baguio City / Luzon )
11. University of San Carlos ( Cebu City / Visayas )
12. Xavier University ( Cagayan de Oro / Mindanao )
13. Mindanao State University ( Main / Mindanao )
14. Urios College ( Butuan City / Mindanao )
15. Polytechnic University of the Philippines ( Manila / Luzon )
16. De La Salle University ( Manila / Luzon )
17. Mapua Institute of Technology (Manila / Luzon )
18. Adamson University ( Manila / Luzon )
19. Central Mindanao University ( Bukidnon/Mindanao )
20. University of Southern Philippines ( Davao /Mindanao )
ah ewan sa mga blog... basta ang alam ko...
Centro Escolar University is the first university in the Philippines to be given an ISO:9001 certification on its campuses.
ISO 9001 is an international standard that gives requirements for an organization's quality management system (QMS).
The objective of ISO 9001 is to provide a set of requirements that, if effectively implemented, will provide you with confidence that your supplier can consistently provide goods and services that:
■Meet your needs and expectations and
■Comply with applicable regulations
The requirements cover a wide range of topics, including your supplier's top management commitment to quality, its customer focus, adequacy of its resources, employee competence, process management (for production, service delivery and relevant administrative and support processes), quality planning, product design, review of incoming orders, purchasing, monitoring and measurement of its processes and products, calibration of measuring equipment, processes to resolve customer complaints, corrective/preventive actions and a requirement to drive continual improvement of the QMS. Last but not least, there is a requirement for your supplier to monitor customer perceptions about the quality of the goods and services it provides.
uy kasama ang school ko sa top 20 ;D
Time and time people post these top XXX universities so they can feel good about their universities and show how elite they really are. They just won't be content with how they are lucky to be educated unlike the rest of the masses.
Quote from: John The Baptist on October 31, 2010, 02:03:25 PM
Time and time people post these top XXX universities so they can feel good about their universities and show how elite they really are. They just won't be content with how they are lucky to be educated unlike the rest of the masses.
John The Baptist might be referring to me since I was the one who started this thread. Anyway, it didn't even cross my mind to think how elite I am to be educated as such as compared with the rest of the masses. Who would ever think of that way except for people who aren't happy with their education. People who do not have the school spirit.
This thread is started for discussion's sake dude. Those who got their education from schools posted above may feel a bit high and elated, but what would that count if where you are right now doesn't speak of excellence and being on top?
Education is not luck for me, so no one needs to feel lucky. Education is a product of will, a clear plan, a very good motivation. It does not come by chance as implied by luck or fortune. You get educated because you want to, you give your time to be educated. Public elementary and highschool is free, so the offer for education is for everyone. Not for the lucky ones.
When people start the word TOP it already gives the impression of I'm better than you. And if you put it in a ranking it gives an instinct that MY SCHOOL IS BETTER THAN YOU. It then becomes a second implication that I'm smarter than you.
That's why I loathe these rankings. There is a inside arrogance building up.
It is still luck. You are still born to a family that doesn't have 8-9 kids who lives under the bridge and begs for change in the middle of manila road. Education may be free but the situation around it (lack of food, transportation, uniforms, book) isn't free. some of these kids would like to study but can't because of their situation and would resort to child labor just to live.
That's it dude. That is how to join the discussion. :-) Anyway, just remember that in forums, we talk about the topic per se, and let us refrain from giving ad hominems. :-)
Going back to your points of contention, governing bodies rank different universities for various reasons. One, students need to be advised as to which university to choose from. And whether we accept it or not, prospective students would want to go to reputable schools. One of the ways where students can get an overview of this is through these "top universities" surveys. Pangalawa, universities need these rankings so as to draw prospective students into enrolling into their school. Third, rankings are made to evaluate how the school is performing. As to reasons why people keep on posting this ranking, firstly, it is a topic of discussion. If you get pissed off because for some reason, your school isn't on the top, or your school is not in the number 1 position, or whatever it is, then there is a PRIDE problem with you. Rankings are mostly done in an objective manner. For this particular case, this is based on licensure examinations perfomance. Secondly, knowing that your school is doing well in terms of ranking elicits school spirit. When school spirit is high, students and alumni of that school will try hard to contribute to the school's success. Yes, PRIDE is part of school spirit because in the first place, you have to be proud of your school. And of course, I do not deny the fact that if your school is number 1 in this ranking, licensure examinations-wise, your school is BETTER than number 2.
Public schools are divided into AM and PM classes. Going to school is still a free offer for everyone.
Quote from: ctan on October 31, 2010, 03:22:14 PM
Rankings are mostly done in an objective manner. For this particular case, this is based on licensure examinations perfomance.
is that an objective measure?
Quote from: angelo on October 31, 2010, 09:27:32 PM
Quote from: ctan on October 31, 2010, 03:22:14 PM
Rankings are mostly done in an objective manner. For this particular case, this is based on licensure examinations perfomance.
is that an objective measure?
Yes
hello John the Baptist, welcome to PGG. I just remember one user here, si Solomon parang ikaw kung magpost ;D post lang ng post :D
Quote from: pinoybrusko on November 01, 2010, 12:11:48 PM
hello John the Baptist, welcome to PGG. I just remember one user here, si Solomon parang ikaw kung magpost ;D post lang ng post :D
Thank you. Another biblical name? I guess this forum is Blessed by God :D
WOw.. pasok pala school ko dyan.. Haha! ;D
Quote from: ctan on October 31, 2010, 11:54:21 PM
Quote from: angelo on October 31, 2010, 09:27:32 PM
Quote from: ctan on October 31, 2010, 03:22:14 PM
Rankings are mostly done in an objective manner. For this particular case, this is based on licensure examinations perfomance.
is that an objective measure?
Yes
i do not think so. but if that blogger says so, then so be it.
Matagal na to napag pistahan sa pex. 2 years ago pa.. sa palagay ko may new version na niyan. (Pero ganun din nasa listahan).
Papaano yung mga univs. na nag-oofer ng mga courses na hindi naman kinakailangan ng board exams? say, business courses?
Quote from: Mr.Yos0 on November 02, 2010, 12:13:59 AM
Matagal na to napag pistahan sa pex. 2 years ago pa.. sa palagay ko may new version na niyan. (Pero ganun din nasa listahan).
Papaano yung mga univs. na nag-oofer ng mga courses na hindi naman kinakailangan ng board exams? say, business courses?
uu nga paano yung mga courses ng walang board exam so hinde accurate ang list ;D. ano ba dapat ang basis to know the top university in our country?
I think the list is still accurate. That is why it qualifies itself to be licensure exam-related. Other bodies may have their own surveys and base their criteria on different factors.
Masasabi ko lang kay John The Baptist, education is free. Nasa pagsisikap yan ng tao. Kung gusto mo ng proof, marami. Isa na ko dun. Gusto mo bang i-elaborate ko? ;D
Hindi kasali ang school ko sa list pero proud ako sa school ko dahil marami itong natulungan na mag-aaral.
Quote from: John The Baptist on October 31, 2010, 02:03:25 PM
Time and time people post these top XXX universities so they can feel good about their universities and show how elite they really are. They just won't be content with how they are lucky to be educated unlike the rest of the masses.
Quote from: John The Baptist on October 31, 2010, 02:42:13 PM
When people start the word TOP it already gives the impression of I'm better than you. And if you put it in a ranking it gives an instinct that MY SCHOOL IS BETTER THAN YOU. It then becomes a second implication that I'm smarter than you.
That's why I loathe these rankings. There is a inside arrogance building up.
It is still luck. You are still born to a family that doesn't have 8-9 kids who lives under the bridge and begs for change in the middle of manila road. Education may be free but the situation around it (lack of food, transportation, uniforms, book) isn't free. some of these kids would like to study but can't because of their situation and would resort to child labor just to live.
yeah, expected na yan, di na halos maiwasan. pero sana dito pa lang kitilin na natin ang ganyang mentality.
the list is accurate, ONLY if it's aptly titled.
^ pwede na rin. but if there some form of subjectivity to it, there may be unwanted skews in your data. hence, biased.
^ edited previous post. d ko napansin kanina.
Quote from: fox69 on November 04, 2010, 09:31:21 AM
as an educator, i have to agree that the list indeed presents an accurate ranking as far as licensure exams are concerned...since i am teaching high school seniors, many parents would ask for my recommendations for the best university for their children and i always refer to this list because i dont want to be accused as biased ( otherwise, all my students will be BLUE EAGLES ;D )
it is okay to be biased, they are asking for your opinion anyway.
ako I always ask them what course do they want to take. just one of the easier ways to shortlist. at the end of the day, wala rin yan sa school, kung hindi rin naman nag-aaral ng mabuti ang student.
Ako naman, I do believe that progress in education depends on BOTH the school and the student. Magaling nga ang student, pero if the school is not an effective avenue for learning and intellectual growth of the student, wala din mangyayari. On the other hand, magaling nga ang school but if the student does not have any positive will to be educated, then the case is hopeless at that point. So both dapat. :-)
Tama! ;D
Quote from: junjaporms on November 18, 2010, 06:21:33 AM
Quote from: ctan on November 06, 2010, 01:39:19 PM
Ako naman, I do believe that progress in education depends on BOTH the school and the student. Magaling nga ang student, pero if the school is not an effective avenue for learning and intellectual growth of the student, wala din mangyayari. On the other hand, magaling nga ang school but if the student does not have any positive will to be educated, then the case is hopeless at that point. So both dapat. :-)
for me, it's the student that makes the name of the school
ngayon ko lang nabasa. hehe!
e pano yan jun kapag matalino talaga ang estudyante, mabilis matuto at makaintindi... kaso, kulelat ang teachers, kulelat ang curriculum ng school... ano na lang ang learning environment ng student? :-)
Isa sa dictum sa education ay yung idea that magaling talaga ang school kung kaya nito gawing achiever ang isang ordinaryong estudyante. :-)
Top universities, colleges in Philippines 2011
World Rank Name Country Rank
976 University of the Philippines Diliman * 1
1686 De la Salle University Manila 2
2282 University of the Philippines Los Baños 3
2339 Ateneo de Manila University 4
3552 Xavier University Ateneo de Cagayan 5
3801 University of Santo Tomas 6
4056 University of the Philippines 7
4107 University of the Philippines Manila 8
4112 University of the Philippines Mindanao 9
4726 Mindanao State University Iligan Institute of Tech.. 10
4903 Mapua Institute of Technology 11
5744 Ateneo de Zamboanga University 12
5748 Colegio de San Juan de Letran 13
5953 Adventist International Institute of Advanced Stud.. 14
5976 Saint Louis University Baguio City 15
6524 Angeles University Foundation 16
6569 Ateneo de Naga University 17
6626 University of San Carlos 18
6673 Asian Institute of Management * 19
6802 University of the Philippines in the Visayas 20
6969 University of San José Recoletos 21
7036 Aquinas University 22
7125 Miriam College (Maryknoll) 23
7226 Saint Scholastica's College 24
7767 University of the Philippines Open University 25
7967 Silliman University 26
7984 Centro Escolar University Manila Mendiola 27
8079 De la Salle College of Saint Benilde 28
8113 Ateneo de Davao University 29
8156 University of the East, Manila 30
8176 Adventist University of the Philippines 31
8201 De La Salle University Dasmariñas 32
8605 Mariano Marcos State University 33
8681 Central Philippine University 34
8844 Philippine School of Business Administration 35
8896 Saint Mary's University of Bayombong 36
8998 University of the Philippines Baguio 37
9088 System Technology Institute 38
9194 University of Southeastern Philippines 39
9295 MSC Institute of Technology 40
9345 Polytechnic University of the Philippines 41
9504 San Beda College 42
9606 Adamson University 43
9613 John B Lacson Foundation Maritime University 44
9783 De La Salle Health Sciences Institute 45
9991 International School Manila 46
10016 University of Southern Mindanao 47
10083 De la Salle Lipa 48
10264 University of Baguio 49
10281 Wisdom International School for Higher Education S.. 50
10412 Central Luzon State University 51
10443 Asia Pacific College 52
10443 University of San Agustin 53
10585 San Sebastian College Manila 54
10585 Benguet State University 55
10598 University of Asia and the Pacific * 56
10762 University of Saint Louis Tuguegarao 57
10831 Philippine Normal University 58
11077 Southwestern University Cebu Philippines 59
11094 University of Cebu 60
11213 University of the East Ramon Magsaysay Memorial Me.. 61
11293 Asian Institute of Journalism and Communication 62
11315 Western Mindanao State University 63
11330 St. Michael's College of Iligan City 64
11415 University of Regina Carmeli 65
11670 University of Saint La Salle Bacolod 66
11676 Holy Name University 67
11689 Bukidnon State University 68
11723 Informatics Computer Institute 69
11761 Cebu Doctors' University (Cebu Doctors' College) 70
11775 West Visayas State University 71
11805 Far Eastern University Phillipines 72
11814 University of the Cordilleras (Baguio Colleges Fou.. 73
11837 Cebu Institute of Technology 74
11872 Ateneo Graduate School of Business Makati 75
11971 Tarlac College of Agriculture 76
http://www.topstudylinks.com/Top-Universities-in-philippines-c143.aspx
^pano kaya nakuha ang rankings na yan. ano mga parameters na ginamit? i am not convinced with the rankings.
nakakainis hindi ako papayag neto hahahaha... ;D ;D ;D
^ano ba sayo jan?
baka wala sa list kaya siya naiinis :D
ano ibig sabihin nung asterisk? tapos sa country rank #7, may UP na naman doon.
sensiya na po.. nagcopy paste lang ako... check niyo na lang po mismo yung site.. may pinost akong link.
gaya nung mga naunang post about rankings.. 'wag na lang masyadong seryosohin...
thanks!
gusto ko lang malaman kung ano yung caveat. meron talaga asterisk kahit sa link. even UA&P has one.
Quote from: pinoybrusko on May 23, 2011, 09:55:32 PM
baka wala sa list kaya siya naiinis :D
nasa list naman kaso...bakit ganun yung ranking hehehe...
parang bias hahaha..joke. 8)
Nasa list yung Alma Mater ko kahit malayo sa Top 5 masaya na ako dun at least alam ko na kaya namin humabol.hahaha...saka nakakapag-produce naman sila ng Top na students eh.hehehe...Siguro mahalaga din iyon.
Hindi kaya yung * eh between UP Diliman, UP Manila, and UP Baguio?
Quote from: MakaBayan on May 27, 2011, 04:42:53 PM
Hindi kaya yung * eh between UP Diliman, UP Manila, and UP Baguio?
Oo nga... Parang average ng lahat ng up campuses?
University of the Philippines, based on some surveys, they have been in the top rank for several years.
University of the Philippines (http://jeneepaket.wordpress.com/2011/07/11/university-of-the-philippines/)
WALA NAMAN YAN KUNG SINO ANG PINAKA MAGALING NA SCHOOL.
NASA TAO YAN!!!
IT DOESNT MEAN NA MAGALING ANG SCHOOL MAGALING LAHAT NG STUDENT JAN!!!
MADAMI AKO KILALA BOPOLS :P
^
RELAX KA LANG SIR WAG KANG MAGALIT... :P
I believe so. Pero minsan dipende rin. Sabihin na nating hindi lahat magagaling sa top universities na ito, but I know a lot of people from some of the mentioned universities who have brains.
Quote from: Kilo 1000 on July 19, 2011, 04:20:27 AM
Universities only matter for your first job and your contacts...
Beyond that its a matter or your skill and talent in your industry.
for some reason, i agree with Boss Kilo. My school is indeed on the list pero by chance hindi ko nagamit yung course ko. It really depends on the interest. Palamuti ko nalang sa resume ko yung diploma ko. I'm a graduate of Electrical Engineering but i'm in the field of IT since I graduated. Yun kasi ang interest ko e. Funny pero experience nalang ang ginagamit kong credentials why nakakahanap ako ng work and why my current company trusted me that i am capable of the job. 8) Sa umpisa mo lang talaga magagamit ang transcript, after this... experience na ang mahalaga 8) ---->> base on my own experience lang po and POV.
Ayos wala yung school namin.
Bat nandun yung MAPUA di naman yun university??
LIKE!
wala yung skwelahan ko ah
go PUP! :D ;D
ayun o, top 1 yung university ko. hahahaha!
*angas mode*
:-p
^^ yobong
^ hahaha. shempre in the end, yung success naman nakadepende pa rin on BOTH school quality and student quality. :-)
^ oo tama ka diyan. pero may ibang factors eh. not necessarily na pag grumad ka doon, successful ka. though ayokong maka-offend kasi andami-daming grad sa magandang eskwelahan, wala namang ginagawa para umunlad bansa natin. puro pera nasa isip. nakakainis.
yup, school AND student nga yan! :-)
^ doc, hindi lang. family upbringing, sociological, environmental factors. ganun. kung ang ateneo ba ay itinayo sa basilan, maganda ba ang ateneo?
school factor na yan. hindi ko sinasabi na kasi ang pangalang ATENEO ay magaling, yun ay factor. nope, ang ibig sabihin ng school factor, kahit saan man yan sa pilipinas, kung maganda ang curriculum nito, merong resources, magaling ang teacher, conducive ang environment for learning, etc, yun ay isang magandang school. :-) kung ang UP ay UP lang sa pangalan pero bulok ang sistema nito na hindi na nakakapag-aral ang estudyante, hindi ito magandang school factor. kahit sa estudyante, oo matalino siya. pero kung wala siyang kusa at patapon sa klase, hindi ito plus factor. kaya for me, the bottomline is still school and student factor. :-)
may point kayo diyan. sorry na, doc :(
Quote from: pong on October 29, 2011, 09:00:17 PM
^ doc, hindi lang. family upbringing, sociological, environmental factors. ganun. kung ang ateneo ba ay itinayo sa basilan, maganda ba ang ateneo?
ADBU
Ateneo de Basilan University... pwede..
E ang UE kaya pwede itayo sa West Avenue?
FEU pa rin! recca recca suma FEU! hehe
Quote from: jazaustria on November 06, 2011, 11:16:25 PM
FEU pa rin! recca recca suma FEU! hehe
yun oh..ka-alma mater! oh yeah!
^ di lang pala ka-alma mater.
kabatch pa.
kainstitute pa.
:D ;D
Quote from: alternative09 on November 06, 2011, 11:18:58 PM
^ di lang pala ka-alma mater.
kabatch pa.
kainstitute pa.
:D ;D
syempre apir tau jan! same institute nga, d nmn nagkakilala dati lol!
Quote from: jazaustria on November 06, 2011, 11:29:36 PM
Quote from: alternative09 on November 06, 2011, 11:18:58 PM
^ di lang pala ka-alma mater.
kabatch pa.
kainstitute pa.
:D ;D
uuuuy may idea na ako saan kayo nag-aral hehe... Institute eh
syempre apir tau jan! same institute nga, d nmn nagkakilala dati lol!
Quote from: pong on November 07, 2011, 09:10:12 AM
Quote from: jazaustria on November 06, 2011, 11:29:36 PM
Quote from: alternative09 on November 06, 2011, 11:18:58 PM
^ di lang pala ka-alma mater.
kabatch pa.
kainstitute pa.
:D ;D
uuuuy may idea na ako saan kayo nag-aral hehe... Institute eh
syempre apir tau jan! same institute nga, d nmn nagkakilala dati lol!
Why?are we all from the same school?:D
institute of arts business and finance and MARKETING? hahaha!
hindi kasali ang school ko pero wala naman yan sa school nasa student yan.
kahit sa #1 international school world wide pa ang isang student nag graduate kung di marunong sa buhay at di marunong dumiskarte WALA PA RIN yan.
nasa tao talaga yan.
pero nakaka-proud din naman na kabilang ang school mo sa top 20.
I still stand by my belief that success in the academe would depend on both the school quality and student quality. What good is the student if the school could not provide the avenue for the student to develop his full potential? And what good is the school if the student has no will to learn?
Quote from: ctan on November 08, 2011, 01:21:45 PM
I still stand by my belief that success in the academe would depend on both the school quality and student quality. What good is the student if the school could not provide the avenue for the student to develop his full potential? And what good is the school if the student has no will to learn?
Yes, I believe in that. It requires full cooperation between the school and the student.
But why do you think schools are being ranked?
i read somewhere na certain companies pay for such to gauge which school ranks best in which field,
so that they could recruit new grads from those schools.
of course, for student to get admitted and for them to graduate from top schools,
the attitude of the student towards education and excellence in general is most likely no longer in question.
so, they get the best of both worlds - excellent school + excellent students.
But there are a lot of BS students in UP, being a top university in the rankings...
Quote from: ctan on November 08, 2011, 01:46:33 PM
But why do you think schools are being ranked?
advertisement yan.
Quote from: ctan on November 08, 2011, 01:53:27 PM
But there are a lot of BS students in UP, being a top university in the rankings...
by BS - do you mean BaSura? Bobong student? Bull shit? hehe.
well, those companies do not just recruit any student from top universities right?
they recruit the best students from the best universities.
on a similar note, there are bullsh*t best students from the best universities.
Quote from: ctan on November 08, 2011, 01:46:33 PM
But why do you think schools are being ranked?
i don't know. this is way beyond disgust. for rhodomontade? for competition? to raise endowments? to say that: "OK, we're number 1, and you're way beyond #500 and you're a C-class school! HAHAHA!!!" honestly, it doesn't make sense. you have been talking about school and student qualities yet we always fall to the basis of the rankings, which i believe, is not reliable.
Quote from: ctan on November 08, 2011, 01:53:27 PM
But there are a lot of BS students in UP, being a top university in the rankings...
yeah, i know a lot. let's cite examples, most of our Presidents have graduated from the best universities. look what we got, and where we are now.
Quote from: darkstar13 on November 08, 2011, 01:59:10 PM
Quote from: ctan on November 08, 2011, 01:53:27 PM
But there are a lot of BS students in UP, being a top university in the rankings...
by BS - do you mean BaSura? Bobong student? Bull shit? hehe.
well, those companies do not just recruit any student from top universities right?
they recruit the best students from the best universities.
on a similar note, there are bullsh*t best students from the best universities.
it's despicable to glance on mere school ID. let me tell you one thing, the most admirable people didn't come from the best schools. that's the thing i would like to point out.
but companies, multi-national ones at the very least, do that.
too bad for those na hindi galing sa top schools pero magaling
Quote from: darkstar13 on November 08, 2011, 02:17:18 PM
but companies, multi-national ones at the very least, do that.
too bad for those na hindi galing sa top schools pero magaling
oo may tsansa na si grad ng pamantasan mula sa leyte ay hindi kukunin, bagama't mas techie and everything, si atenista ang kukunin. well ganun talaga.
slightly out of topic, pero everytime napapanood ko ang mga docu regarding students sa mga liblib na lugar na naglalakad ng at least 2 hours,
yung iba natawid pa ng bundok or ilog, para lang pumasok sa iskwela, naiiyak ako.
tapos makakasabay ko ang mga estudyante na kung anu anong kaartehan lang ang pinaguusapan.
In fairness to these schools being ranked among in the top, and in fairness to students and alumni of the same, they have already proven themselves the distinction they have now. I guess with such feat, one could only imagine what gruelling events these institutions have gone through before claiming these acclamations. I think that these schools deserve respect from schools that aren't mentioned here. No, it's not about boosting one's self esteem or heighten one's egocentricity. It is all about the typical endowment of honor that each person should give to respectable institutions. Allow me to give an example. An expert in your field (say in medicine or in accountancy) would deserve respect from neophytes of the same field. Even if that expert has in time showed imperfections, he sill deserve the respect because he has proven himself worthy of it.
And on the other note, one's object of admiration is relative. What may be admirable to one can be disguting for some. That is why there is variety of votes during election.
Quote from: ctan on November 08, 2011, 02:30:10 PM
In fairness to these schools being ranked among in the top, and in fairness to students and alumni of the same, they have already proven themselves the distinction they have now. I guess with such feat, one could only imagine what gruelling events these institutions have gone through before claiming these acclamations. I think that these schools deserve respect from schools that aren't mentioned here. No, it's not about boosting one's self esteem or heighten one's egocentricity. It is all about the typical endowment of honor that each person should give to respectable institutions. Allow me to give an example. An expert in your field (say in medicine or in accountancy) would deserve respect from neophytes of the same field. Even if that expert has in time showed imperfections, he sill deserve the respect because he has proven himself worthy of it.
And on the other note, one's object of admiration is relative. What may be admirable to one can be disguting for some. That is why there is variety of votes during election.
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thank you mr. philippines very well said. judges i think we have our winner already.
Quote from: ctan on November 08, 2011, 02:30:10 PM
In fairness to these schools being ranked among in the top, and in fairness to students and alumni of the same, they have already proven themselves the distinction they have now. I guess with such feat, one could only imagine what gruelling events these institutions have gone through before claiming these acclamations. I think that these schools deserve respect from schools that aren't mentioned here. No, it's not about boosting one's self esteem or heighten one's egocentricity. It is all about the typical endowment of honor that each person should give to respectable institutions. Allow me to give an example. An expert in your field (say in medicine or in accountancy) would deserve respect from neophytes of the same field. Even if that expert has in time showed imperfections, he sill deserve the respect because he has proven himself worthy of it.
And on the other note, one's object of admiration is relative. What may be admirable to one can be disguting for some. That is why there is variety of votes during election.
On one hand (oops tama na)
tama kayo na ang mga magagaling na estudyante ay mula sa mga magagaling na mga paaralan, pero sa tingin ko, hindi angkop na sabihing ang mga magagaling na tao ay galing sa mga magagaling na eskwelahan, o kaya, ang nalalaman ng tao ay base sa kanyang pinag-aralan. ganito na lang po, doc, lahat tayo ay mag kinalaman sa pag-unlad ng bansa. ang tao ay sinusukat sa kung paano siya umayon sa ginagalawan niya. kung yan ang inyong pananaw, iyon ay amin pong ginagalang.
Hindi naman ganun pong. :-) ang sinasabi ko lang, na huwag naman masyado lapastanganin ang mga eskwelahan na kabilang diyan sa listahan dahil may pinagdaanan na yan sila. Kumbaga, a kindergarten should not disrespect a college graduate. Oo, madaming bullsh*t talagang estudyante diyan sa university namin, pero may the university as a whole be given its due honor. :-)
at oo naman, I certainly agree na Hindi porke galing sa isang magaling na eskwelahan ang Tao magaling siya, or dahil magaling ang isang tao automatically galing siya sa top university. Isang halimbawa diyan ay ikaw. Alam kong napakagaling mo. Actually sobrang hanga ako sa yo. Ang deep ng thoughts mo, nonconventional, practical. Pero you claimed na di kasali sa top school yung paaralan mo. Eh yun. Kaya it's not what I really meant as you understood it.
Quote from: ctan on November 08, 2011, 03:28:50 PM
Hindi naman ganun pong. :-) ang sinasabi ko lang, na huwag naman masyado lapastanganin ang mga eskwelahan na kabilang diyan sa listahan dahil may pinagdaanan na yan sila. Kumbaga, a kindergarten should not disrespect a college graduate. Oo, madaming bullsh*t talagang estudyante diyan sa university namin, pero may the university as a whole be given its due honor. :-)
at oo naman, I certainly agree na Hindi porke galing sa isang magaling na eskwelahan ang Tao magaling siya, or dahil magaling ang isang tao automatically galing siya sa top university. Isang halimbawa diyan ay ikaw. Alam kong napakagaling mo. Actually sobrang hanga ako sa yo. Ang deep ng thoughts mo, nonconventional, practical. Pero you claimed na di kasali sa top school yung paaralan mo. Eh yun. Kaya it's not what I really meant as you understood it.
alam ko naman yung point mo, doc. ang point ko lang talaga, bakit kailangan ng ganito? bakit kailangang i-rank ang lahat ng bagay? ang buhay ng tao ay hindi naman bigtime na contest. bottomline: lahat naman tayo pantay-pantay eh. parang sa desiderata: "If you compare yourself with others, you may become vain and bitter, for always there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself."
wag nating uriin yung mga PGG members na wala yung school nila sa listahan, kasi yang mga ranking eh matter lang ng opinyon. ok, may standards, may criteria for judging; pero walang batayan para uriin ang pag-iisip ng tao base sa mga pinag-aralan niya. ganun lang ang point ko doc. hehe, peace tayo ah :) baka mamaya pag pumunta ako sa EB may laser na naka-tutok sa ulo ko :D
Hahahaha! Gets na gets ko ang point mo pong. Naitanong ko Kung bakit nirarank pa ang mga schools kasi ang nasa isip ko, ginagawa ito ng mga kumpanya kasi binabase nila ang success dito. Tulad na lamang sa board exams. Pride iyon ng eskwelahan kung isa sa nga estudyante nila ay nagtop or yung school mismo kasama sa top performing school. Sa pamamagitan ng rankings na to, makakaakit ng competitive students ang isang eskwelahan.
Hindi rin naman ito isang paraan ng pagtatangi ng kapwa. Dahil ito naman ay isa lamang typical post kung saan nakakahanap ang isang pgg member ng bagay kung saan siya makakarelate. Dahil dito, maaari siyang lumahok sa mga diskusyon ukol sa talakaying ito.
Nais ko rin sana ibahagi na ang rankings na naipaskil dito ay isang paraan upang magawan ng makabuluhang pagdalumat ng sistema ng edukasyon sa ating bansa. Bakit sa isang napakaprestihiyosong pamantasan, nagkakaroon pa rin ng mga pasaway na mag-aaral? Saan sila nagkulang? Sa proseso ng pagtanggap? O sa proseso ng pagtuturo? Bakit sa mga paaralang nabanggit, napakadami ng magagaling na estudyante? Sa Kabila ng lahat, bakit hindi sila kasama sa ranking? So pamamagitan ng pagpost ko ng rankings na to, naway makita nga ng lahat yung dati ko pang paninindigan:
Success depends on BOTH the school and the student. Maaaring wala sa listahan ang eskwelahan pero ito ay nagbigay utmost care and learning sa estudyante, magaling ito para sa akin. At magaling nga yung eskwelahan, pero bulakbol naman ang mga estudyante, bale wala yung ranking Nila.
hala, serious kayo sa school topic nato.
feeling ko ito ang topic na ang mag reply ng mga tao ang hahaba.
tamad ako mag basa sa mahabang reply.
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it's like watching legal drama ;D
ako naman parang nanuod ng i witness o kaya ng reporter's notebook o kaya the correspondent..pede ring debate with mare at pare o kaya the bottomline with boy abunda..hehehe..
you don't have good teachers, you won't have good education. And you won't have good teachers if you keep paying teachers conscript wages. Which is what we have now: The salaries of teachers are criminal. Psychic income, which is the bulk of the income teachers get today, may be good for the soul but they do not buy the groceries. You raise the salaries of teachers (and reduce the budget of Cabinet secretaries, in direct inverse proportion), you recruit better teachers. You recruit better teachers, you'll get better ranking for schools, particularly the secular ones.
First off because it lacks a sense of history. If students did not make it a point to protest the protestable, or violently iniquitous, we might even now still be under martial law, with Marcos' generals in lieu of him overseeing it. It was the students who stormed out of their classrooms to protest Marcos when nobody else would, some of them marching up all the way to the hills, and kept the fires of freedom alive in the darkest pit of his rule. If the students had focused on their studies rather than swelling the ranks of the throng that gathered outside the camps, we might never have had an Edsa. Which harvest P-Noy has reaped, along with his people in Malacañang. Ingratitude is never a sign of grace.
Second off because it posits a myopic view of education. Education is not something you get in the classroom alone. It is not something you get from books alone, though you can get a lot of education there, enough to not need the classroom all. But that's another story. The students in fact are tending to their studies, if not indeed focusing on them, by being aware of the realities around them, by trying to do something about the realities around them
Learning, there is a world out there, that there is a value that goes beyond looking out for No. 1, is learning. It is studying. It is getting educated. The UP students protesting the SUCs being shoved into the backburner of budget priorities are living up to a glorious tradition, one the Collegian put this way: "Kung hindi ngayon, kailan pa? Kung hindi tayo, sino pa?" It was the students then and the students now who grasped the fundamental truth of that motto, the compelling imperative of that battle cry, who lived, and have lived, up to the ideal of being a iskolar ng bayan. They were and are the ones who have served the people.
The others? Well, they just focused on their studies in the narrowest sense of that idea and went abroad afterward, little caring about the country they left behind, crying, "Good riddance."
gayunaman, go tamaraws pa rin! haha!
To nurture children's full cognitive and affective engagement with learning tasks, teachers are advised to provide choice that reflects respect for student's own goals and learning agendas.
Exercising choice will foster self-awareness and intellectual self-control, allowing children to pause, consider and reflect to become responsible and autonomous.
To help counter boredom, both teachers and students must learn how to be autotelic—from Greek, meaning "self" and "goal". An autotelic person needs few possessions, little entertainment, no fame or power, because what he does is already rewarding.
An autotelic task is one student-and-teacher will do for its own sake because the experience is the goal. Curious and creative people are usually autotelic.
Many students who excel in school have learned to read for fun from a young age, and sustain the habit throughout their lives. They do not groan when they have to read lengthy novels or plays, and actually read entire books rather than rely on shortcuts or summaries.
good thing i didnt need any motivation to read when i started to learn it when i was a kid... especially in this country, where reading is not the favorite past time, where most people would rather watch TV, chat or just simply slack off.. especially in this country, where the government does not encourage it... when they almost successfully made reading reading more difficult by impsing new taxes..
Kids should see you reading! You cannot expect children to develop the reading habit when they see you slumped in front of the TV and barely read anything. Stress the value of reading over TV or computer games.
Make reading a family activity. Discuss books or news stories over dinner. Visit bookstores regularly. National Book Store sells used books, and so do Book Sale and Books for Sale. My friends rejoices in August and September because these are book sale months. We buy many books that we enjoy throughout the year.
BOW! :P
Quote from: jazaustria on November 18, 2011, 03:28:26 PM
you don't have good teachers, you won't have good education. And you won't have good teachers if you keep paying teachers conscript wages. Which is what we have now: The salaries of teachers are criminal. Psychic income, which is the bulk of the income teachers get today, may be good for the soul but they do not buy the groceries. You raise the salaries of teachers (and reduce the budget of Cabinet secretaries, in direct inverse proportion), you recruit better teachers. You recruit better teachers, you'll get better ranking for schools, particularly the secular ones.
however, the whole issue will boil down to the exacerbating issue of the national budget, which is influenced mainly by how the Philippine economy is performing. there must be a check and balance in distributing finances in the national budget. increasing the budget allocation for the education sector drastically will debilitate the other facets of the national government. raising the budget for education a little bit will not help at all. and so the bottomline is that we could not actually demand dramatic increase in budget allocation for education as this will impede other government sectors.
in line with this, i believe that it is the robust cooperation of the school and student that will put to order the alleviation of the education status of the Philippines. despite the meager budget allocation, especially among state colleges and universities, the school must give its students the learning they deserve to get, and students should be giving 100% of their effort in order to learn and apply the things taught at school.
ano ba yan? hindi pa rin sumusuko si doc!
"The UP students protesting the SUCs being shoved into the backburner of budget priorities are living up to a glorious tradition, one the Collegian put this way: "Kung hindi ngayon, kailan pa? Kung hindi tayo, sino pa?" It was the students then and the students now who grasped the fundamental truth of that motto, the compelling imperative of that battle cry, who lived, and have lived, up to the ideal of being a iskolar ng bayan. They were and are the ones who have served the people."
jaz natuwa naman ako sayo..sa lahat ito na ata pinakamaganda mong sinabi,hehehe.. ;)
ngayon ko lng nabasa ang buong thread, masaya ako dahil consistent na laging pasok o nangunguna yung unang school na pinasukan ko at hindi rin nagpapatalo yung school na nilipatan ko..well,dapat lang kasi nasa pangalan ng dalawang university na yun ang "Philippines"
pero naniniwala rin ako na wala sa school ang success ng isang tao..unang step plng proven na nakasalalay sa estudyante ang success nya..may mga school na mataas ang standards at kung maipasa mo ang entrance exam nila ibig sabihin nagaral kang mabuti..at kung makapagtapos ka sa school na yun ibig sabihin apat o limang taon ka nagaral mabuti..at yun ang sukatan hindi yung kung saang school ka nagtapos..
pero hindi rin natn maitatanggi na malaking factor sa mga kumpanya ang school na pinanggalingan mo, pero factor lng yun at hindi lng yun mismo ang basehan..dahil kelangan mo pa rin iconvince ang company na karapat-dapat ka sa trabahong inaaplyan mo saang school ka man galing..
kainis tong si jaz. hahaha. nabasa ko tong mga post mo sa Inquirer. hahaha!
writer ako ng inquirer! haha! pen name ko lang yung andun! hekhek! :o
kundi lang kita kaibigan inatake ko na ang ginawa mo. hahahahaha! buti na lang Christmas at friends tayo. hahahaha!
di mo pa ba ako inatake sa facebook? hahaha! ok lang yan doc! merry christmas! =D enjoy your blog!
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/102713/you-can-do-anything-even-fly-to-the-moon-with-a-book
enjoy reading! haha! ayan na doc ah! ;D
WEE. Go San Beda Fight!
ayan jaz! dapat may citation! hahaha!
Nakaka-degrade naman wala ni isa dito University ko. Feeling ko hindi worth mag invest mataas ang kalidad ng pinag-aaralan ko.