makatarungan ba ang pagbitay sa 3 pinoy sa china na nahulihan ng drugs....need your opinion...
against ako. mas mabuti pang makulong sila habambuhay. pag namatay sila, hindi nila mababayaran yun mga pagkakamali nila, kung totoo talagang nagkasala sila.
well, the fact na walang parusang bitay sa bansa natin, bilang pinoy, masasabi kong hindi ito makatarungan...
kung yung mga chinese drug syndicate nga na nahuhuli dito sa atin eh ibinabalik sa bansa nila.. dapat lang makinig sila at ganun din gawin nila sa panawagan ng bansa natin.
pero kung sa tingin ko itutuloy ba o hindi ang pagbitay..
i think tuloy ito..
may ilang factors na pwedeng gustong 'makaganti' ng tsina sa Pinas, isa na dun yung madugong hostage taking sa luneta..
i watched teresita ang see's interview in TV Patrol last night. i forgot the exact words na sinabi nya pero ang idea is, wag natin pakialaman ang batas ng china the same way na ayaw natin na pinakikialaman ng ibang bansa ang batas natin. tama nga naman. pag tayo pinakikialaman ng ibang bansa, madaming umaalma.
and i think ang title din ng thread na to ang text poll question kagabi sa TV patrol. and 70% ng mga nagtext ang nagsabi na makatarungan ang parusa sa 3 Filipino. magsilbi na lang siguro ito as a lesson sa mga iba pang mangangahas na pumasok sa mga drug syndicate na nagdadala ng droga sa ibang bansa.
Yes tama nga naman. Simpe logicn hindi porke hinahayaan yung mga dayuhang nagkasala dito ay dapat ganun dinsa ibang bansa. That's invalid as per bandwagon arguementn or two wrongs make a right under fallacies of relevance. Nakakalungkot mang isipin yung tungkol sa kababayan natin pero alam na nila kung ano ang tama at mali at kung ano ang patutunguhan ng gagawin nila. Nasa ibang bansa sila.
Para sa akin kasi ay hindi. Lifetime imprisonment na lang dapat.
Pero come to think of this. kasi parang sunod sunod na ang isyu ng Phil sa China/HK.
Una yung sa Quirino Grandstand Hostage, tapos yung kay Ronald Singson, tapos yung walang pumunta dun sa inimbitahan ng HK court para magtestify dun sa Hostage issue. Tapos yung sa Vietnam na pinadeport na mga Vietnamese.
Kababawan mang masasabi pero diba parang nadadala na ang mga Chinese sa asal ng Phil. govt.
Yes for me. That's the law there.
@maykel - It's unrelated to those cases you mentioned. Kahit na anong nationality ang nagkasala dun, bitay din ang punishment, hindi lang for Filipinos just because of the recent rows. Actually kababawan natin kung lagi natin ita-tie up yung actions nila sa mga nangyari dati.
Btw, ano yung about Vietnam? What I know is yung pagdeport ng Taiwanese to China.
Quote from: carpediem on February 18, 2011, 11:23:24 AM
Yes for me. That's the law there.
@maykel - It's unrelated to those cases you mentioned. Kahit na anong nationality ang nagkasala dun, bitay din ang punishment, hindi lang for Filipinos just because of the recent rows. Actually kababawan natin kung lagi natin ita-tie up yung actions nila sa mga nangyari dati.
Btw, ano yung about Vietnam? What I know is yung pagdeport ng Taiwanese to China.
OT:
oo nga. kaya nga sabi ko dun sa last statement ko eh kababawan yung mga reason na sinabi ko. :)
whatb if gumawa kaya tayo ng batas na yung mga foreigner na mapapatunayang nagksala dito sa atin eh bitayin din?
especially yung mga chinese na nagtatayo ng factory ng droga sa bansa.. wala lang..
ipamukha natin sa china na mga tao rin nila ang gumagawa ng mga droga na yan.
^ Ok lang sa akin. Kahit ibalik pa death penalty.
On China's part, ok lang sa kanila.
Pero with our current justice system, ugh...
Quote from: judE_Law on February 18, 2011, 12:26:24 PM
whatb if gumawa kaya tayo ng batas na yung mga foreigner na mapapatunayang nagksala dito sa atin eh bitayin din?
especially yung mga chinese na nagtatayo ng factory ng droga sa bansa.. wala lang..
ipamukha natin sa china na mga tao rin nila ang gumagawa ng mga droga na yan.
korek.... siguro alam na nila yan kaya ganun na sila kahigpit
latest news...
iniurong ang pagbitay sa tatlong pinoy.. hmmmm.. iniurong... bakit hindi pa ibinigay sa atin?
hmmm... bilangin niyo ulit isla ng pinas ha.. baka may pinagpalit na... :o
^ palit daw yata yan ng mga pagsuporta ng RP sa China nitong nakaraan - boycott ng Nobel PP, pagpauwi ng Taiwanese sa Mainland China, etc.
Quote from: Mr.Yos0 on February 19, 2011, 12:17:20 PM
^ palit daw yata yan ng mga pagsuporta ng RP sa China nitong nakaraan - boycott ng Nobel PP, pagpauwi ng Taiwanese sa Mainland China, etc.
am sure bukod diyan.. may hihingin pa ang chinese government.. maging mapagmatiyag.. ;)
lahat naman e. kahit US humihingi ng kapalit. antayin nyo na lang paglabas ng wikileaks cables 10 years from now. ;D
naaawa lang ako dun sa tatlo, kasi nabalita yung mga buhay nila at kung bakit nila nagawa iyon.
na suspend ung bitay, diba? anu latest nito?
isang isla sa spratlys kada isang pinoy... ;D
Quote from: Kilo 1000 on February 22, 2011, 01:25:18 AM
Quote from: Luc on February 21, 2011, 01:58:16 AM
na suspend ung bitay, diba? anu latest nito?
Disappointing si binay as a diplomat
something fishy is happening
Hinde man lang naelaborate yung meaning ng 'suspend the execution until the extent of the law.' dahil nahiya... sigh.
Dapat nagstay longer siya sa China, did some PR, lagay ng konting we see that the EDSA revolution is like the China's revolution... blah blah blah. "The People's Republic" is a merciful just country. blah blah.
We would like to form a solid partnership against drug trafficking and take an active step on the drug mule thingy.. blahblah. At lahat na ng adjectives, superlatives, praises, more concrete words.
ang nangyari.. parang bumalik lang siya at nagulat na lang.
maedyo nkakapagtaka talaga... hindi mo talaga maiiwasang may lihim na pinag-usapan o kapalit yung negosasyon..
eh what about yung kay Mar Roxas na pinadala siya bilang emisaryo ng bansa sa Taiwan..
what's your take on this?
parang hindi tama diba?
^ parang di tama ang alin: Mar Roxas bilang emisaryo, pagpapadala ng emisaryo sa Taiwan, pagdeport ng Taiwanese sa China, o pagkakagalit ng Taiwan?
Quote from: judE_Law on February 22, 2011, 08:59:17 PM
maedyo nkakapagtaka talaga... hindi mo talaga maiiwasang may lihim na pinag-usapan o kapalit yung negosasyon..
eh what about yung kay Mar Roxas na pinadala siya bilang emisaryo ng bansa sa Taiwan..
what's your take on this?
parang hindi tama diba?
di gagawin ni pinoy yan....bastusan na yan
Quote from: joshgroban on February 23, 2011, 01:03:54 AM
Quote from: judE_Law on February 22, 2011, 08:59:17 PM
maedyo nkakapagtaka talaga... hindi mo talaga maiiwasang may lihim na pinag-usapan o kapalit yung negosasyon..
eh what about yung kay Mar Roxas na pinadala siya bilang emisaryo ng bansa sa Taiwan..
what's your take on this?
parang hindi tama diba?
di gagawin ni pinoy yan....bastusan na yan
haha.. ginawa niya na josh...
update: sinabi ni PNOY sa isang pagtitipon kaninang umaga na hindi succesful ang trip ni Mar sa Taiwan.. kasi lalo lang nagdemand ng Apology ang pamahalaan ng Taiwan mula sa Gobyerno ng Pilipinas. ero Iginiit ni Pnoy na hindi siya magso-sorry.
ganun... ano kaya binargain ni binay at di nagawa ni mar
Quote from: joshgroban on February 23, 2011, 09:46:35 PM
ganun... ano kaya binargain ni binay at di nagawa ni mar
actually wala pang bina-bargain si Binay, kaya nga hinold lang yung pagbitay, pero kung meron man malamang pinakawalan na yung tatlo.. am sure kung anuman yung hiniling ng chinese government sa Pinas ay inihatid na ito ni Binay kay PNOY, nasa sa kanya na ngayon kung pagbibigyan iyon o bibitayin ang tatlong pinoy.
The China executions revealed serious Philippine media flaws
AS I WRECK THIS CHAIR By William M. Esposo (The Philippine Star)
The recent OFW (overseas Foreign worker) issues specifically the deferred China executions of Filipino drug mules underscored what convinces some people that Philippine media are one of the causes why we as a country cannot get our act together.
I will be the last to want to have any form of media censorship or prior restraint. However, it is one thing to have a free press and another to have an irresponsible press. When we consider the big Information Gap in our country — one of the foundations of the big Philippine Wealth Gap — that reflects how our media had failed miserably.
Having demonstrated the most glaring example of questionable editorial judgment and reporting, we cite the recent case of ABS-CBN, the network that claims to be the most trusted.
Let's dissect the ABS-CBN coverage of the China executions from February 11 up to February 21, as follows:
1. Last February 11, TV Patrol aired the plight of three Filipino drug mules in China who were about to be executed starting February 21. They even named one of the three OFWs despite orders from our Department of Foreign Affairs (DFA) not do so until cleared by them. The TV Patrol reporting of this episode creates the impression that the OFWs were the victims of government neglect instead of crimes that they had committed. It was a melodrama where friends and kin of the OFWs were claiming innocence.
2. On the week of February 14 to 18, when it became obvious that government was not lacking in earnest efforts to address the scheduled executions in China and after Vice President Jojo Binay managed to get a deferment of the executions, the ABS-CBN slant shifted to speculating on what the government conceded to China in order to get the deferment of execution.
3. During the TV Patrol episodes of these dates, the network ran an online TEXT POLL to gauge how Filipinos felt about the death sentences of the three OFWs in China. By an overwhelming margin, those who responded felt that the three Filipino drug mules in China deserved the sentences that they received.
4. In highlighting the hopelessness of the three OFWs in China, the network kept saying that China had denied similar requests from the British and Japanese governments for its nationals who were meted the same death sentence for drug trafficking.
Following is where I think the network should have been more circumspect:
1. It was unfair to give the impression which the February 11 TV Patrol "melodrama" created — that the government has been remiss in trying to soften China's position. The fact is President Noynoy Aquino (P-Noy) even brought this matter up with China's top official in a recent international meeting. There was even speculation that this was part of the Philippine boycott of the Nobel event in Oslo, out of deference to China. The fact is the DFA has been making representations and helping the convicted OFWs.
2. Perhaps owing to what can be considered a Filipino national inferiority complex, the mission to prevent the executions was made to appear like an impossible dream — citing how China refused to accommodate similar requests from the British and the Japanese. Nobody ever considered that in this issue, we Filipinos have distinct advantages over the British and Japanese. The Chinese have not forgotten the British role in the Opium Wars and the quashing of the Boxer Rebellion which triggered decades of turmoil in China. The Chinese have also not forgotten Japanese atrocities in China during World War II. We do not have such a baggage.
3. It was rather dense of media not to have detected the signs that a positive note was in the air after P-Noy boldly stated that the executions will test the limits of Philippine-China relations and after Vice President Binay was given the signal to proceed to China. I was not surprised when VP Jojo Binay immediately got a deferment but it seems that everybody else in media here were stunned.
In one of the ABS-CBN telecasts, it was even mentioned that the P-Noy government may have surrendered to China our claims to the oil-rich Spratlys, just to have that deferment. That was baseless just as it was stupid. Why will P-Noy cede something as valuable as the Spratlys to China when it is very clear that Filipinos do not blame the government for the death sentences of the three OFWs? Do you see the son of Ninoy and Cory Aquino doing that?
A top Asian diplomat I met last February 21 at the book launch of Ambassador (to ASEAN) Menito Villacorta provided a very good insight to why China allowed a deferment. This top Asian diplomat represents a country with extensive dealings with China over several centuries.
His take on China's favorable decision to defer the executions was that it China's way of balancing recent hard line positions that they have taken against the P-Noy government, especially after the August 23, 2010 Manila Hostage Crisis. China, he explained, has a keen interest in the Philippines and would not want to push P-Noy into the exclusive embrace of the US.
I think P-Noy knew this which is why he was so bold to state that the executions will test the limits of Philippine-China relations. He did not have to concede anything like the Spratlys to China. China would have been happy if we did not allow the US to establish an offensive military capability in Mindanao and other parts of our country which can be used against China. It is also for our own good that the US does not get to establish that offensive military capability here lest we become the ground zero of a US-China conflict.
Up to the mid-1980s, television newscasts did not adopt this format which I call the "tabloidization" of the TV news. In pursuit of bigger ratings and therefore ad revenue, it was decided to pattern the TV news after the high circulating tabloids. That means putting too much weight on showbiz, crime, melodrama and scandal.
Television being the highest source of news now, are you surprised that we are suffering from a serious Information Gap?
http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=661292&publicationSubCategoryId=64
Quote from: carpediem on February 27, 2011, 02:25:16 PM
The China executions revealed serious Philippine media flaws
AS I WRECK THIS CHAIR By William M. Esposo (The Philippine Star)
The recent OFW (overseas Foreign worker) issues specifically the deferred China executions of Filipino drug mules underscored what convinces some people that Philippine media are one of the causes why we as a country cannot get our act together.
I will be the last to want to have any form of media censorship or prior restraint. However, it is one thing to have a free press and another to have an irresponsible press. When we consider the big Information Gap in our country — one of the foundations of the big Philippine Wealth Gap — that reflects how our media had failed miserably.
Having demonstrated the most glaring example of questionable editorial judgment and reporting, we cite the recent case of ABS-CBN, the network that claims to be the most trusted.
Let's dissect the ABS-CBN coverage of the China executions from February 11 up to February 21, as follows:
1. Last February 11, TV Patrol aired the plight of three Filipino drug mules in China who were about to be executed starting February 21. They even named one of the three OFWs despite orders from our Department of Foreign Affairs (DFA) not do so until cleared by them. The TV Patrol reporting of this episode creates the impression that the OFWs were the victims of government neglect instead of crimes that they had committed. It was a melodrama where friends and kin of the OFWs were claiming innocence.
2. On the week of February 14 to 18, when it became obvious that government was not lacking in earnest efforts to address the scheduled executions in China and after Vice President Jojo Binay managed to get a deferment of the executions, the ABS-CBN slant shifted to speculating on what the government conceded to China in order to get the deferment of execution.
3. During the TV Patrol episodes of these dates, the network ran an online TEXT POLL to gauge how Filipinos felt about the death sentences of the three OFWs in China. By an overwhelming margin, those who responded felt that the three Filipino drug mules in China deserved the sentences that they received.
4. In highlighting the hopelessness of the three OFWs in China, the network kept saying that China had denied similar requests from the British and Japanese governments for its nationals who were meted the same death sentence for drug trafficking.
Following is where I think the network should have been more circumspect:
1. It was unfair to give the impression which the February 11 TV Patrol "melodrama" created — that the government has been remiss in trying to soften China's position. The fact is President Noynoy Aquino (P-Noy) even brought this matter up with China's top official in a recent international meeting. There was even speculation that this was part of the Philippine boycott of the Nobel event in Oslo, out of deference to China. The fact is the DFA has been making representations and helping the convicted OFWs.
2. Perhaps owing to what can be considered a Filipino national inferiority complex, the mission to prevent the executions was made to appear like an impossible dream — citing how China refused to accommodate similar requests from the British and the Japanese. Nobody ever considered that in this issue, we Filipinos have distinct advantages over the British and Japanese. The Chinese have not forgotten the British role in the Opium Wars and the quashing of the Boxer Rebellion which triggered decades of turmoil in China. The Chinese have also not forgotten Japanese atrocities in China during World War II. We do not have such a baggage.
3. It was rather dense of media not to have detected the signs that a positive note was in the air after P-Noy boldly stated that the executions will test the limits of Philippine-China relations and after Vice President Binay was given the signal to proceed to China. I was not surprised when VP Jojo Binay immediately got a deferment but it seems that everybody else in media here were stunned.
In one of the ABS-CBN telecasts, it was even mentioned that the P-Noy government may have surrendered to China our claims to the oil-rich Spratlys, just to have that deferment. That was baseless just as it was stupid. Why will P-Noy cede something as valuable as the Spratlys to China when it is very clear that Filipinos do not blame the government for the death sentences of the three OFWs? Do you see the son of Ninoy and Cory Aquino doing that?
A top Asian diplomat I met last February 21 at the book launch of Ambassador (to ASEAN) Menito Villacorta provided a very good insight to why China allowed a deferment. This top Asian diplomat represents a country with extensive dealings with China over several centuries.
His take on China's favorable decision to defer the executions was that it China's way of balancing recent hard line positions that they have taken against the P-Noy government, especially after the August 23, 2010 Manila Hostage Crisis. China, he explained, has a keen interest in the Philippines and would not want to push P-Noy into the exclusive embrace of the US.
I think P-Noy knew this which is why he was so bold to state that the executions will test the limits of Philippine-China relations. He did not have to concede anything like the Spratlys to China. China would have been happy if we did not allow the US to establish an offensive military capability in Mindanao and other parts of our country which can be used against China. It is also for our own good that the US does not get to establish that offensive military capability here lest we become the ground zero of a US-China conflict.
Up to the mid-1980s, television newscasts did not adopt this format which I call the "tabloidization" of the TV news. In pursuit of bigger ratings and therefore ad revenue, it was decided to pattern the TV news after the high circulating tabloids. That means putting too much weight on showbiz, crime, melodrama and scandal.
Television being the highest source of news now, are you surprised that we are suffering from a serious Information Gap?
http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=661292&publicationSubCategoryId=64
hmmm... very interesting..
but am not buying it.. ;D
from someone who works for GMA 7, INQ7... lol! nice try!
^ Yes of course I know. And he is a firm supporter of PNoy.
But to be objective, he did make a few good points.
Quote from: carpediem on February 27, 2011, 10:34:55 PM
^ Yes of course I know. And he is a firm supporter of PNoy.
But to be objective, he did make a few good points.
actually, the only thing clear to me in that article is that he's trying to destroy the reputation of tv patrol.
i was just wondering why he keeps on watching TV Patrol? lol!
did you not notice that at the first line he said that.. "the Philippine
Media are on the cause why we as a country cannot get our act together."
i think he should have replaced media with
TV Patrol .. baka mas maniwala pa ako sa kanya. ;D
^ True. He said Philippine media, but substantiate his claim by only giving TV Patrol as an example. But disregarding if there is hidden intentions or not by the columnist, we should try to get to the objective points.
Quote from: carpediem on February 27, 2011, 11:05:54 PM
^ True. He said Philippine media, but substantiate his claim by only giving TV Patrol as an example. But disregarding if there is hidden intentions or not by the columnist, we should try to get to the objective points.
haha.. nice example.. totally unbiased??!!
in my field..
which of course i know well, than some people who pretends to know it all..
attracting viewers is very important..
gaya ng kung paano gustong dumami ng SM ang mamimili sa kanila, kaya pati maliit na kanto ngayon may save more na.
kung papaano gustong maka-attract ng maraming customer ng BENCH kaya lahat yata ng artista ultimo sina Melai at Jason ginawang Modelo na.
if you think its a cheap hype tactics and yet you continously watch it.. what do you call yourself then?
^ Firstly, I did not say Esposo is totally unbiased. In fact I don't like many of his writings.
Second, I just said to take what he wrote at point value, as it is, objectively. If you cannot filter out the necessary from the unnecessary from his writings, then that's your problem.
Third, I do not watch much TV Patrol, or local news for that matter.
^chill, if you think i am creating a word war with you. your wrong. pakibasa na lang ulit kung para kanino yung sinasabi ko. unless kung may nalaktawan akong basahin sa mga post mo na sinabi mong "cheap hype tactics ang ginagawa ng ABS and other tabloids"
if the person who wrote the article is biased.. do you expect him to show you the real objective of his writings?
parang hellooooo??? look who's talking....
kung ang bumubuhay sa akin at sa pamilya ko ay ang trabaho ko sa jollibee, sasabihin ko ba na walang kwenta ang mga fastfood chain? o di kaya naman.. sino ang pupuntiryahin kong banatan para umangat ang aking pinagta-trabauhan? siyempre yung kalaban.
i am not against with people telling media are this and that.. but please, be sure naman it came from someone na pwedeng sabihing "walang bahid". good thing, niresearch ko muna kung sino yang writer na yan bago ako nagbigay ng komento dito, at least may basehan yung pino-point out ko.
unless, you can find another article from someone na talagang walang self interest regarding this matter.. pero for now,
i rest my case.
any update sa pag bitay?
Quote from: eLgimiker0 on March 02, 2011, 10:38:36 PM
any update sa pag bitay?
sorry sa OT hehe.
wala pa sa ngayon... i think meron talagang niluluto ang gobyerno natin at gobyerno ng china.
balita ko kulang na ang isang isla natin. nasa china na.. ehehehe
^hindi na ako magtataka.. hehe..
Quote from: judE_Law on March 03, 2011, 12:46:57 AM
^hindi na ako magtataka.. hehe..
ehehe. acually sayo galing yun eh.. ahahaha
@jude:
I won't talk further about the article. Just want to point out a thing. You said you will only believe someone who is "walang bahid". This is flawed, and is close to ad hominem. This is similar to a government official who is accused, trying to discredit a witness or whistleblower by showing the latter's own bad track record.
A piece of unsolicited advice. Love your work, but be wary about any company you work for. People are dispensable.
Quote from: carpediem on March 03, 2011, 09:41:45 AM
@jude:
I won't talk further about the article. Just want to point out a thing. You said you will only believe someone who is "walang bahid". This is flawed, and is close to ad hominem. This is similar to a government official who is accused, trying to discredit a witness or whistleblower by showing the latter's own bad track record.
A piece of unsolicited advice. Love your work, but be wary about any company you work for. People are dispensable.
carpediem, wala tayo sa korte at hindi witness yung pinag-uusapan natin, ang artikulong iyong ipinost ay isang opinyon ng taong nagta-trabaho mula sa ka-kumpetensiyang istasyon.. hindi ko sinasabing mali lahat ng isinulat niya pero the fact na.. of all the media(print, tv, radio) bakit TV PATROL(ABS-CBN) lang ang binigay niyang halimbawa?
ngayon sabihkn mo sa akin, hindi ba karapat dapat na kwestiyunin ko kung ano ang objective niya sa pagsulat ng artikulo na yan?
i know what my work is, and you don't know how much i love it. pero may kinalaman pa ba 'to sa pinag-uusapan natin na artikulo?
^ A logical fallacy (e.g. ad hominem) is a logical fallacy, whether in court or not.
Quotepero the fact na.. of all the media(print, tv, radio) bakit TV PATROL(ABS-CBN) lang ang binigay niyang halimbawa?
we agreed here
Quotengayon sabihkn mo sa akin, hindi ba karapat dapat na kwestiyunin ko kung ano ang objective niya sa pagsulat ng artikulo na yan?
it's ok to question. but the way you said it, parang nirereject mo totally
Quotei know what my work is, and you don't know how much i love it. pero may kinalaman pa ba 'to sa pinag-uusapan natin na artikulo?
wala. and as i've said it's an unsolicited advice. if you take offense from that then sorry i shouldn't have said it.
okay. nasabi mo na dapat sabihin, nasabi ko na dapat kong sabihin.
hayaan na lang natin yung mga nagbabasa ang humusga. saka sobrang OT na tayo.
tuloy ang bitay.
malamang hindi nagkasundo.
kawawa naman ang family....
bakit ang arroyo admin ang daming naisalbang pinoy na nakalinya sa bitay..
itong present admin, wala akong makitang ginagawang aksiyon...
parang late na natin nareceive ang news na yan....pag malaking tao ang nahuli sa drugs...pagkahuli pa lang news na...pag maliit malalaman mo na lang pag may sentence na whew
kakalungkot....
kawawa naman..
sana mai-save pa..
natuloy na ang bitay..
sad :(
yap...whatever the real story behind...its all in Gods hand
^May God Rest Their Souls.
kakaiyak yung mga raction ng family nila
:(
^kakalungkot diba Brusk?
ang nais lang naman nila mabigyan ng magandang kinabukasan family nila..
dapat talaga yung mga bwakanab*tch na mga hay*p na drug syndicate na yan ang habulin!
^ may ginagawa na ba ang mga kapulisan, NBI about them?
wala!
yung recruiter nga pinakawalan ngayon di na makita.
Quote from: judE_Law on March 30, 2011, 07:16:25 PM
^kakalungkot diba Brusk?
ang nais lang naman nila mabigyan ng magandang kinabukasan family nila..
dapat talaga yung mga bwakanab*tch na mga hay*p na drug syndicate na yan ang habulin!
tama jude, pero may mali din sila. kung gusto nila mabigyan ng magandang kinabukasan ang family nila, sana inisip muna nila ang mga gagawin nila :)
nagbabasa ako ng yahoo news about sa pagbitay. maraming nagagalit. pero sana mas lawakan pa nila yung kaalaman nila.
may report din sa mga tagaroon na nagpapabalik balik na yung ordiario na babae sa china...so may mga bagay talaga tayong hindi pa alam... pwede rin kasing palabasin na biktima ang talaga namang nagpapagamit....
^well, did you guys know na ang batas sa China...
dapat pala mas mababa ang parusa sa courier kumpara sa pusher o miyembro ng sindikato?
that's one thing na inaapila ni Binay...
well its too late for he thrree...sana wag na maulit
hangga't hindi pa nahuhuli yang mga drug syndicate na yan.. mauulit at mauulit pa rin yan.
kaso marami pa pinoy nakapila sa death row...dapat ayusin na yun ngayon
^mga isang buwan bago ang bitay saka aayusin yan Josh.. hehe..
Very Nice Article:
A Sad Day for All Filipinos
March 31, 2011
Yesterday was indeed a sad day for all Filipinos, whether at home or in foreign lands, but especially for the forlorn families of those three unfortunate souls executed in China for having been sentenced to die for a crime they may have committed by force of need and circumstance, deceit or even betrayal.
Catholic bishops in this country and overseas led in mourning the death of three Filipino drug mules who were executed in that country via lethal injection yesterday.
At the same time, the prelates issued a warning for other innocent Filipinos similarly situated that they should view that tragic scenario as a lesson for overseas Filipino workers (OFWs) to be extra careful abroad.
Cotabato Archbishop Orlando Quevedo said OFWs should make sure they know the laws of the country they are in to avoid troubles.
"We cannot control the administration of justice in other countries," said Quevedo, former president of the Catholic Bishops' Conference of the Philippines CBCP).
"I also wish to extend my deep condolences to the families of those executed and I pray for the eternal repose of their souls," he said. "I also pray for all those OFWs who are under great suffering at this time."
Kidapawan Bishop Romulo dela Cruz also said he is saddened by what happened and expressed his condolences over the death of the three Filipinos and Filipinas.
"I'm sorry for the families who are now deeply bereaved and in grief. I hope that this will also serve as a lesson for the future that our OFWs should be more careful," he said.
"We already know that there are laws in each country about drugs...this is a lesson for all to be careful and to also respect the laws of other nations," dela Cruz added.
Ramon Credo, 42, Elizabeth Batain, 38, and Sally Villanueva, 32, were executed by lethal injection after they were found guilty of illegal drug trafficking.
The execution took place despite earnest appeal from the Aquino administration to have their death sentence commuted to life.
While we and our people appreciate the last-ditch efforts of our government to come to the rescue by taking some last-minute appeal to the Chinese government for some form of clemency or reduction of sentence, the frantic gestures came too late and there was no way the guilty verdict could be reversed or even modified.
It could have been different if the government intervention or legal action was made available in their defense while the case was still being heard in the process of litigation before the court of law.
We wonder why nothing was ever heard of their cases in the early stages when the Philippine government could have done something positive, such as providing them legal counsel for their defense or intercede on their behalf. How come the Philippine Embassy was unable to make a full report to Malacañan Palace through the Department of Foreign Affairs (DFA) of what's happening to the country's modern-day heroes, the Overseas Filipino Workers (OFWs) who are supposed to be responsible in keeping their beleaguered country afloat amid economic reverses and depression?
Aren't these officials monitoring the misfortunes of their countrymen around the world? What's happening to our foreign diplomats, foreign service attaches, foreign policy experts and the like? We are not even informed of the working conditions of OFWs, their misfortunes, misadventures and social or economic woes abroad.
All we know is that they leave the comforts of home to earn dollars in foreign shores at a great sacrifice. What are we doing for them in return? What is government for if it cannot answer the call for help when our OFWs are in dire need of help at a time they need it most?
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