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dapat give and take, kung tanggap mo xa, dapat ganun din xa sau..kung ayaw mo naman magbago,dapat wag mo rin pilitin baguhin nya yung ayaw mo sa kanya..

Quote from: vir on November 07, 2011, 04:41:22 PM
dapat give and take, kung tanggap mo xa, dapat ganun din xa sau..kung ayaw mo naman magbago,dapat wag mo rin pilitin baguhin nya yung ayaw mo sa kanya..

ayos ah...

tama nga naman. eh pero kung papano, wala namang dapat baguhin dun sa isa?

^ dapat tanggapin ka nya kasi tanggap mo lahat sa kanya eh..

kumplikado nga tong issue na to..hehe..

makapag poll lang din! haha  :P

In my opinion: You don't love a person for what you want them to be...
pag ginawa mo yan para mo na ring sinabi na mahal mo ang sarili mo..
love them for who they are..

Sbi nga ng kanta: Love me for what I am and for simply being me
Don't love me. For what you intend. Or hope that I will be

magbabago ako kung ito'y ikabubuti ko at ng relasyon namin.

and if you're only using me
to feed your fantasies..

you're really not in love so let me go..
I must be free..,

Quote from: ram013 on November 08, 2011, 12:59:37 AM
In my opinion: You don't love a person for what you want them to be...
pag ginawa mo yan para mo na ring sinabi na mahal mo ang sarili mo..
love them for who they are..

Sbi nga ng kanta: Love me for what I am and for simply being me
Don't love me. For what you intend. Or hope that I will be

ayun oh.. na-LSS na... ;D

magbago for good ...yes...pero para baguhin ang pagkatao ko mahirap yun....

My opinion in different point of views..

1. Magbago ako - possible,thats why we a have a thing called learning from our mistakes..kahit di nya sinabing magbago ka, past experiences can make u change for the better.

2. Tatanggapin nya ako - possible, if she loves me then she will accept me for who i am and not for who i am not..tapos papasok na dito yung magbabago ako..because di naman pwedeng puro acceptance lang, in return pwede rin magbago para mas maging ok ang relationship.

3. Magbago sya - possible, but not very necessary..acceptance is a factor but it will be much appreciated kung magbabago sya kahit konti.

4. Tanggapin sya - possible, love breaks all the rules. hindi pwedeng idealistic masyado, meron at meron din talagang flaws..afterall, nobody's perfect...if she lacks something, i'll be the one to fill her shortcomings but in time she will learn to change her ways, kasi matututunan nya yun from me...so magbabago pa rin...


so i guess the common denominator for this one is magbabago..

sabagay, change is constant.. :)

Kung baliw na baliw ako sa kanya, baka pwede pa na ako ang magbago para sa kanya

Kung hindi naman, tanggapin nya kung ano ako at tatanggapin ko din sya ng maluwag sa loob ko

Quote from: darkstar13 on November 28, 2011, 05:39:35 AM
What is the threshold for accepting and changing for a person you love?

perhaps, acceptance is an indicator of love and changing one's attitude is an indication of concern. you might learn to love a woman despite her fickle-mindedness, her tantrums and even her unintelligible logic. kaya nga may kanta na: "have you ever really loved a woman" ni bryan adams.

Quote from: darkstar13 on November 28, 2011, 05:39:35 AMMay mga times na alam mo na ganun na talaga ang ugali ng tao,
after having several instances wherein you have talked things out , argued about it, etc
Subalit, ikaw, sa sarili mo, hindi mo alam kung kaya mo bang tanggapin na ganun na talaga sya.

siguro, you are not deeply in love. ewan ko, in my own definition i need to love a woman unconditionally para masabi kong mahal ko siya.

Quote from: darkstar13 on November 28, 2011, 05:39:35 AM
Where do we draw the line?

the line between acceptance and instilling change? i guess it's the level of love. you are not deeply in love if you impel her something that you just don't want. the same with friends. you are not good friends when you look something to him/her which is not in accordance with your standards. and it's plain easy, the line that separates them is real love.

uhm, iba yung sagot mo sa tanong ko.

Quote from: darkstar13 on November 28, 2011, 08:56:50 AM
uhm, iba yung sagot mo sa tanong ko.

maybe i generalized the answer in line with your question. pero ang main question was about the threshold for accepting and changing for a person you love. and it's the level of love, is that it? or are we talking about third persons here?

uhm, i don't know.

either you are an idealist in love and loving a person, or you haven't been so in love with a person who is almost the exact opposite of you.
the fact that we both struggle in trying to accept and change to satisfy each other's need is, for me, a manifestation of the level of love.
most people would just break up over those kinds of differences.

so it isn't love. it's some sort of a sense of belonging.

how are you so sure that it isn't love and just a sense of belonging?

just because someone is struggling to accept something about someone they 'claim to love', you already concluded that the level of love is not enough, and now, it has gone all the way down to just a sense of belonging?

mmm, i may not conclude love involves miscibility of two individual persons, but i think i did.

a lot of people claim it's love without being so sure of the feeling. yes, there is the physiological factors: increased heartbeat, decreased responsiveness to negative emotions among others, but that does not signify love in totality.

what's the sense of belonging? you're just being with someone because of some ulterior motive of whether the mind has outsmarted the heart. many couples are just being together for a lot of reasons... let me cite you examples:
1) for health reasons - i hate to elaborate further
2) for ostentation - just to present to everybody you're not pathetic as it may seem
3) for continuity of heritage
4) for conjugation of wealth
5) for self-actualization

getting too far, many people from the above relationships tend to accept their other half for the sake of fulfilling their ulterior motives, and that does not constitute love. maybe i'm really an idealist in love but i'm not defining love in its literal meaning. i've felt it as far as i can equate it but then that love was as selfish as i think it was, so i chose to let it subside.

to accept someone that is totally different from you is part of humanity and it constitutes love and compassion. being the change for love is not necessary, for it just complicates the true meaning of acceptance.

 ;)
magbago para sa kanya at lalo na sa sarili mo  :)

50-50 ako.
kasi u can change a person and accept the leftover.
;)
sabi nga nila if u already found a very special love, it will change your life and thats what it takes to be a man & a woman.

You have to be yourself in a relationship but you also have to know when to compromise.

If you compromise too much onset, you don't know kung ubra ba talaga kayo i nthe long run.

Quote from: miggymontenegro on May 02, 2013, 01:37:01 AM
50-50 ako.
kasi u can change a person and accept the leftover.
;)
sabi nga nila if u already found a very special love, it will change your life and thats what it takes to be a man & a woman.

you got it right miggymontenegro!  :P

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hmmm depende sa babaguhin iba kasi pag masamang ugali ang babaguhin o personality mo talaga yun.... ako kasi makulit so siguro balance lang pero para totally baguhin yun mahirap naman yata.... kung mahal mo isang tao at may body odor sya syempre gusto mo magbago sya pero kung medyo mahiyain sya ...mahirap baguhin yun kasi sya yun...

Quote from: joshgroban on May 24, 2013, 12:05:34 AM
hmmm depende sa babaguhin iba kasi pag masamang ugali ang babaguhin o personality mo talaga yun.... ako kasi makulit so siguro balance lang pero para totally baguhin yun mahirap naman yata.... kung mahal mo isang tao at may body odor sya syempre gusto mo magbago sya pero kung medyo mahiyain sya ...mahirap baguhin yun kasi sya yun...

parang di ko mai-magine na makulit pala si daddy monch.. nirereject ng imagination system ng isip ko.. "internal server error.."