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Title: Impeachment Case of CJ Renato Corona
Post by: judE_Law on January 18, 2012, 11:43:03 PM

Katrina Legarda: Context to the circus
17-Jan-12, 7:16 PM | Katrina Legarda

And so the circus has begun. Both sides have given their opening speeches. The prosecution now has to present evidence to prove each article of impeachment. Assertions and allegations are not evidence; merely jingoistic words designed to incite a mob for the "exorcism of evil."

Presenting so-called evidence before media is mind-conditioning. Publicizing a World Bank report that shows alleged ineligible disbursements of funds from the loan is mind-conditioning. And it is our minds being conditioned. Can we please have some context?

A wise friend reminded us that the impeachment hearing is really a political exercise. With or without evidence, the Chief Justice will lose because, in the end, the senator-judges will vote according to party lines and according to the public's sentiments. Borrowing US Supreme Court Associate Justice Stephen Breyer's words "[T]he judicial system floats on a sea of public opinion." The same applies to our elected senator-judges. Unless the public reaches that level of maturity to enable it to probe deeper and decipher the legal goobledygook in which we are drowning, baka ma Edsa Tres pa.

First on the World Bank report: if you read it properly, you will see that the loan was given ten years ago, during the time of Chief Justice Davide, I think. So, was it under this Chief Justice, or was it under former Chief Justices that these payments were disbursed?

Read before you react.

This person before the Senate now has not, to my knowledge, raped a child, battered a woman, nor murdered another human being. What he is accused of, first and foremost, is that he has shown partiality and subservience to the former chief executive who commuted the life sentences of a convicted child rapist. Did that rapist's fellow congressmen oust him? No. Did that rapist's fellow congressmen seek the impeachment of his protector? No. Tell me: what truly is more heinous?

This person before the Senate now is accused of failing to disclose his Statement of Assets and Liabilities. No judge or justice is apparently required to disclose this to the public. All judges and justices are required to do is to file their Statements only before the clerks of court. In fact, even the two justices supporting the present chief executive did not disclose actual and detailed statements of their assets and liabilities. So, should not all justices and judges be likewise impeached and/or fired from the Bench for filing their Statements before the clerks of court?

Perhaps if he is acquitted, if the Chief Justice is true to his word in protecting the institution that he heads, could he not rally his colleagues in reviewing this so that there is transparency before the public? Likewise, isn't it time for us in the Bar to be more vigilant in preventing corruption in the judiciary? Should we not insist that the Judicial and Bar Council be more insistent on investigating the backgrounds of those who seek a judicial position?

We are at fault here too, mga compañero at compañera, don't you think?

The person before the Senate now is accused of failing to observe the stringent standards for a justice's "integrity, probity, and independence." Ummm – it has been a long time since the Bar has expressed satisfaction with appointments to the judiciary. Is politics doing its job? Hence, no comment.

The person before the Senate now is accused of "blatantly disregarding the principle of separation of powers" by issuing a status quo ante order against the impeachment of the former Ombudsman. He alone signed the order? Does not Article VIII of the Cory Constitution impose the duty on the Supreme Court to determine whether or not there has been a grave abuse of discretion amounting to lack or excess of jurisdiction on the part of any branch or instrumentality of the Government? 

Some agency must have the right to prevent abuse done by the other two branches. That is called "check and balance." So: the executive appoints, the legislature investigates, and the judiciary prevents abuses.

And I ask that same question for the other accusations: he alone signed the "gerrymandering" cases? Did not Congress first pass that law? He alone signed the TRO to enable the Arroyos to leave? The point of collegiality in the appellate courts is to allow free discourse of opinion: and may the majority win. That is called democracy. That is how we elect presidents, senators, and congressmen today. The loser may not like the result, but that is life. We win some, we lose some. We can't throw tantrums like toddlers when we do not get our way.

So, what actually requires evidence now? The accusation of "failure and refusal" to account for the judiciary development fund and special allowance for the judiciary collections? That is money. Our money.

But did not the Commission on Audit come out with a report stating that they found nothing too heinous in the manner by which judicial funds were disbursed?

So, let the circus continue. I have given up asking for statesmanship in Government. Let the chips fall where they may. The impeachment proceedings will expose whatever skeletons lurk in the closets of the courts. The public will see that no person is in fact above the law, as long as there is one person who will dare expose the truth. I hope that the public will continue to remember that they are part of a process, too. I will remember this in 2013 and in 2016.
Title: Re: Impeachment Case of CJ Renato Corona
Post by: enzoafterdark on January 19, 2012, 03:30:49 PM


let the 'authentic' SALN of CJC do the talking and guaranteed within the day it will be over

do this so the country could move on and tackle the more important problems of our society
Title: Re: Impeachment Case of CJ Renato Corona
Post by: geo on January 20, 2012, 09:04:14 AM
impeach na yan.... hahaha...at ilagay sa bilibid si gloria.
Title: Re: Impeachment Case of CJ Renato Corona
Post by: jazaustria on January 20, 2012, 10:49:22 AM
guys, gusto niyo bang magcomment ulit ako dito? hahaha! baka, magkainitan na naman kami ni doc at ni jude law! pinagtutulungan ako nung 2  :(
Title: Re: Impeachment Case of CJ Renato Corona
Post by: enzoafterdark on January 20, 2012, 10:56:14 AM
comment lang..freedom of bitch este speech naman eh mwahahaha


pro corona ba sila o baka critics lang naman sila sa process
Title: Re: Impeachment Case of CJ Renato Corona
Post by: jazaustria on January 20, 2012, 10:59:21 AM
ayaw nila kay abNOY! haha! critics ng process din... e ako, ayaw ko lang kay GMA kaya ayaw ko rin sa mga taotaohan nya! I dnt like abNOY as well!
Title: Re: Impeachment Case of CJ Renato Corona
Post by: geo on January 20, 2012, 11:08:41 AM
bahala kayo sa mga buhay nyo. opinyon nyo yan.... basta sa loob ng bilibid dapat si corona at GMa.... hahhaa..
Title: Re: Impeachment Case of CJ Renato Corona
Post by: enzoafterdark on January 20, 2012, 01:31:34 PM
pano may nangyari kena gma at cjc sa loob ng bilibid haha nag quickie   :P
Title: Re: Impeachment Case of CJ Renato Corona
Post by: pong on January 20, 2012, 02:16:47 PM
seryosong usapan ito ah... ang tingin ko lang sa sobrang bagito ng prosecution ma-o-olats talaga sila. ni meaning ng respondent hindi alam.
Title: Re: Impeachment Case of CJ Renato Corona
Post by: geo on January 20, 2012, 02:20:38 PM
lawyers naman ata yung iba sa prosecution pero just like wat u said bagito nga.... Remember some of the presecution team part ng prosecution team sa impeachment kay erap.

Lets not also forget this is an impeachment not an ordinary court hearing. Iba ang rule of court dito. another thing, mga senators ang court judges. In themeselves (for some of them maybe) don't have any experience or no knowledge at all sa isang full court hearing... *ehem* lapid *ehem*
Title: Re: Impeachment Case of CJ Renato Corona
Post by: pong on January 20, 2012, 02:21:54 PM
well culpable tayo bakit nanalo si lapid.
Title: Re: Impeachment Case of CJ Renato Corona
Post by: geo on January 20, 2012, 02:23:53 PM
didn't vote for him anyway...... Si Santiago lang ata ang pumasok sa magic 12 na binoto ko.... :P
Title: Re: Impeachment Case of CJ Renato Corona
Post by: enzoafterdark on January 20, 2012, 02:26:18 PM
brad cuevas yun di naman tatawagin na de kampanilla yun for nothing and it shows na kinakabahan ang prosecution marinig pa lang surname nya

and ang dami kasing gusto magpasikat na prosecution lawyers since high pro case to.

if they just keep it simple but though and through to the point.

plus mukha naman meron silang hard evidence eh so why panic?
Title: Re: Impeachment Case of CJ Renato Corona
Post by: judE_Law on January 20, 2012, 07:03:57 PM
well... obviously, minadali ang impeachment case laban kay CJC, lumitaw din kung gaano ka bo-blocks ang mga prosekusyon... palibhasa kasi retakers sa board exams at ginagamit ang trial para mag grand standing at makatakbo sa 2013 senatorial elections.. pero nungka... ayun.. to the rescue ang yellow armies sa Senado...
pagbali-baligtarin mo man ang mundo.. isang malaking  kalokohan ang impeachment trial na ito..
Title: Re: Impeachment Case of CJ Renato Corona
Post by: ctan on January 22, 2012, 11:25:50 AM
Ang impeachment ay isang political process. So kung talagang maraming JAUNDICED sa senado, for sure magiging talo ang case ni Corona. It will all boil down to their respective political alliances. Sana lang, hindi ganun ang mangyari. Nag-TRIAL pa kung kampi-kampihan na lang din naman pala ang labanan.

And why do people easily judge Corona? Close ba sila kay Corona at alam na alam nila ang buhay niya? Si Sen Allan Cayetano, tinanong niya yung isa sa prosecution team na kung bakit niya nasabi na may mga ari-arian na hindi dineclare si Corona sa SALN niya when in fact hindi pa naman niya nakikita ang SALN ni Corona? It just goes to show na wala talagang concrete evidence ang prosecution sa mga allegations nila. Isa pa, bakit ba hinahayaan sa court ang "computer-generated evidences"? Computer generated nga, madaling i-manipulate. Tsk tsk tsk.
Title: Re: Impeachment Case of CJ Renato Corona
Post by: joshgroban on January 22, 2012, 09:27:46 PM
katulad nga ng nasabi ko na... di na sana humantong sa ganito kung si corona sa umpisa pa lang nung di nanumpa si pinoy sa kanya ... e naramdaman na ..na ayw sa kanya ng presidente... isang pambabastos na yun... bakit mo ipipiit ang sarili sa ayaw sayo kesehodang bastusin ka... kung alam niya sa sarili niya na malinis ang konsensya niya then noon pa man nag give way na sya sa posisyon na yan for all he cares... ..haist .... yari na naman ako kay jhong nito... nanggigil na naman o...
Title: Re: Impeachment Case of CJ Renato Corona
Post by: judE_Law on January 22, 2012, 11:25:15 PM
fyi Monch.. nakita ko kung paano pumalo paitaas ang blood pressure mo... kaya hindi na ako makikipagtalo... hahahaha...

pakiusap lang.. check your facts ulit regarding sa Impeachment ni Erap... nyahahaha...
Title: Re: Impeachment Case of CJ Renato Corona
Post by: joshgroban on January 23, 2012, 12:34:44 PM
wahaha...natakot ka ba.... anuman ang paghalukay sa buhay na dinaranas ni corona ngayon kasalanan nya na rin sa pasimula pa....tsk... the position is not worth it pag pati pagkatao mo na ay niyuyurakan...
Title: Re: Impeachment Case of CJ Renato Corona
Post by: judE_Law on January 23, 2012, 07:36:14 PM
^yun nga ang dapat eh... if you think you deserve it.. go for it! pag niyuyurakan ka dahil doon.. the more na dapat mong ipaglaban... besides your family is behind you.. pag bumitaw ka.. para mo lang sinabi na totoo ang paratang sayo. may mga laban na minsan ay dapat isinusuko pero hindi ito ang laban na yun.
Title: Re: Impeachment Case of CJ Renato Corona
Post by: maykel on January 23, 2012, 10:32:04 PM
isa lang ang masasabi ko dito... palitan nila ang prosecution team kung gusto talaga nilang maimpeach si Corona. Ang tatanga eh. Pasalamat sila wala si Miriam nung first week of trial. kung nandyan yun, malamang sa malamang eh mapapagalitan yung mga yun.
Title: Re: Impeachment Case of CJ Renato Corona
Post by: judE_Law on January 23, 2012, 11:59:27 PM
Quote from: maykel on January 23, 2012, 10:32:04 PM
isa lang ang masasabi ko dito... palitan nila ang prosecution team kung gusto talaga nilang maimpeach si Corona. Ang tatanga eh. Pasalamat sila wala si Miriam nung first week of trial. kung nandyan yun, malamang sa malamang eh mapapagalitan yung mga yun.

pwede bang pati yung mga senador na alipores ni Penoy ay mag-inhibit na din? lol!
Title: Re: Impeachment Case of CJ Renato Corona
Post by: geo on January 24, 2012, 10:07:00 AM
Quote from: joshgroban on January 22, 2012, 09:27:46 PM
katulad nga ng nasabi ko na... di na sana humantong sa ganito kung si corona sa umpisa pa lang nung di nanumpa si pinoy sa kanya ... e naramdaman na ..na ayw sa kanya ng presidente... isang pambabastos na yun... bakit mo ipipiit ang sarili sa ayaw sayo kesehodang bastusin ka... kung alam niya sa sarili niya na malinis ang konsensya niya then noon pa man nag give way na sya sa posisyon na yan for all he cares... ..haist .... yari na naman ako kay jhong nito... nanggigil na naman o...

I concur. hehe. Bakit exempted ang supreme court justices sa appointment ban?
Title: Re: Impeachment Case of CJ Renato Corona
Post by: judE_Law on January 24, 2012, 07:15:18 PM
LEARNINGS FROM DAY 5:
By: Adolfo Mortera

SENATE IS NOW SANTIAGO-CUEVAS-ENRILE SCHOOL OF LAW

1. SANTIAGO: "Prosecution and defense should submit trial brief, number of witnesses and documents." Justice Cuevas had ready answer: 50 witnesses, 23 documentary evidence, & 25 exhibits. Umiling si Tupas. Santiago castigated him, saying "wag ka umiling dyan." Tupas sheeplishly replied: May we request for 3 days? Sapul ka, Tupak!

2. SANTIAGO: "Decision of the Senate is not limited to either acquittal or conviction, or removal from office. It may decide to reprimand the CJ and keep him in office. Basis to convict is OVERWHELMING EVIDENCE.

3. CUEVAS: "The prosecution should establish that proof is beyond reasonable doubt, as any decision to convict, unreasonably, means perpetual disqualification of the respondent in office. "

4. CUEVAS" "Article 2 paragraph on ill-gotten wealth is not admissible, as non-disclosure of SALN is the main complaint. "You cannot charge a person on mere suspicion."

5. ENRILE TO TUPAS, in reply to his request that the rules be liberal/ flexible: "Are you suggesting that we allow hypothetical questions, hearsays, leading, and misleading questions? What flexibility would you suggest? Uncharacteristically, Tupas sayeth no more.

6. KAREN JIMENO: Today, we can say that the delay in the trial was caused by the prosecution – it was not ready with its Memorandum to Article 2. The defense was.

7. QUOTES FOR THE DAY:
a. Sen. Honasan: "Is presumption of innocence our basic rule?"
b. Sen. Enrile to Tupas: "Are the grounds for impeachment the ultimate facts or
are they conjectural:"
c. Sen. Santiago: "Wag ka umiling dyan." (Aray, Tupas!" "Everyone wants his 15
seconds of fame. Wag na tayong magpa Epal dito."
d. Sen. Enrile: "HINDI AKO MAGIGING KASANGKAPAN NINUMAN." Did you hear that
loud and clear, BSA III???
Title: Re: Impeachment Case of CJ Renato Corona
Post by: joshgroban on January 24, 2012, 07:56:14 PM
ako kahit di maimpeach si corona.... sa lahat ng mga nangyaring ito... kung may natitira pakong delikadesa.. mag reresign na rin ako...sa inyo na ang posisyon sa akin na ang peace of mind tutal wala naman kayong naprove against me....
Title: Re: Impeachment Case of CJ Renato Corona
Post by: judE_Law on January 24, 2012, 08:07:15 PM
^wala ngang na-prove pero yung damage na ginawa nila in public.. at yung torture sa family na ipamukhang isa kang di mabuting tao, ay hindi dapat ipagwalang bahala yun... ikaw ba maatim mo na maiiwang madungis at kinukwestiyon ang pangalan mo? paano ka magkaka-peace of mind? ano na lang ang magiging tingin ng anak mo at ng mga taong nakapaligid sa pamilya mo? tutal andiyan ka na.. eh di patunayan na lang nila at ipaglaban mo kung ano ang totoo. kung ang impeachment ang natatanging paraan para linisin ang iyong pangalan sa mga ibinibintang sayo na walang basehan.. eh di ipaglaban mo.
Title: Re: Impeachment Case of CJ Renato Corona
Post by: geo on January 24, 2012, 08:10:07 PM
Prosecution team bagito. Puro kamot ulo. Hindi na ako magtataka kung ma-acquit si Corona. Maganda pa naman ang kaso against him.
Title: Re: Impeachment Case of CJ Renato Corona
Post by: judE_Law on January 24, 2012, 08:10:51 PM
Quote from: geo on January 24, 2012, 08:10:07 PM
Prosecution team bagito. Puro kamot ulo. Hindi na ako magtataka kung ma-acquit si Corona. Maganda pa naman ang kaso against him.


hindi lang maganda.. punong-puno pa ng pantasya!! lol!
Title: Re: Impeachment Case of CJ Renato Corona
Post by: geo on January 24, 2012, 08:13:06 PM
hahaha. Puro pasikat lang sila lahat para sa ating boto. magresign na silang lahat! mga trapo!
Title: Re: Impeachment Case of CJ Renato Corona
Post by: pong on January 25, 2012, 12:00:13 AM
 one good observation is that the defense panel is 500 notches above the prosecution team but since this is an administrative case only (and not a criminal case), would it be wiser if the court will summon all witnesses, depose them as soon as possible and avoid any delays?
Title: Re: Impeachment Case of CJ Renato Corona
Post by: joshgroban on January 25, 2012, 12:00:59 AM
ayoko na mag comment galaiti na si jhong wahahaha
Title: Re: Impeachment Case of CJ Renato Corona
Post by: Chris on January 25, 2012, 12:05:25 AM
katawa talaga humirit si sen. miriam:

"I'd rather go scuba-diving and get lost in the Bermuda triangle than watch the impeachment at home. It's so boring."

Panalo haha  ;D
Title: Re: Impeachment Case of CJ Renato Corona
Post by: maykel on January 25, 2012, 09:09:45 AM
sayang.. hindi ko napanood yung impeachment kahapon. yun pa naman ang inaantay ko... yung mga tirada ni Lady Senator... :)
Title: Re: Impeachment Case of CJ Renato Corona
Post by: vir on January 25, 2012, 06:51:39 PM
sabi pa nya..ang bagal daw ng usad ng impeachment..kung papatayin daw ang mga camera, tapos yun ng isang araw..hahaha..may point sya!..puro pagpapapogi kasi ginagawa eh..kaya hinahigh blood si madam eh..hahaha..
Title: Re: Impeachment Case of CJ Renato Corona
Post by: judE_Law on January 25, 2012, 07:29:32 PM
Quote from: vir on January 25, 2012, 06:51:39 PM
sabi pa nya..ang bagal daw ng usad ng impeachment..kung papatayin daw ang mga camera, tapos yun ng isang araw..hahaha..may point sya!..puro pagpapapogi kasi ginagawa eh..kaya hinahigh blood si madam eh..hahaha..

^hindi naman isang araw... isang linggo lang.
Title: Re: Impeachment Case of CJ Renato Corona
Post by: enzoafterdark on January 26, 2012, 01:52:17 AM
okay talaga si Her Excellence Sen. Miriam. classic hahaha

kaya pag wala sya sa senate parang ang may malaking void  :D
Title: Re: Impeachment Case of CJ Renato Corona
Post by: maykel on January 26, 2012, 10:38:54 AM
sinu ba talaga ang iniimbestigahan dito, si CJ Corona o yung wife nya? kasi parang base sa takbo ng case kahapon, ang wife nya ang hindi ayos ang Tax.. ang weird lang.
At saludo talaga ako kay Sen. Miriam, straight to the point talaga sya.
Title: Re: Impeachment Case of CJ Renato Corona
Post by: joshgroban on January 26, 2012, 10:52:29 AM
ganun talaga pag under investigation.... pati kamaganak mo nasa cruelty ng gustong makisawsaw sa issue...
Title: Re: Impeachment Case of CJ Renato Corona
Post by: maykel on January 26, 2012, 10:55:01 AM
Sabagay.. just like the other congressmen, hindi ko naman alam kung anu ang mga nakasulat sa Article of Impeachment na kanilang dinidiscuss...

Ang weird lang kasi na puro property ng wife ni CJ Corona ang prinesent nila kahapon.
Title: Re: Impeachment Case of CJ Renato Corona
Post by: judE_Law on January 26, 2012, 08:16:46 PM
Quote from: maykel on January 26, 2012, 10:38:54 AM
sinu ba talaga ang iniimbestigahan dito, si CJ Corona o yung wife nya? kasi parang base sa takbo ng case kahapon, ang wife nya ang hindi ayos ang Tax.. ang weird lang.
At saludo talaga ako kay Sen. Miriam, straight to the point talaga sya.


ganun talaga pag hinahanapan ka ng butas... noong una ang issue, hindi daw nagpa-file ng SALN si Corona.. nung nakitang kumpleto.. sinabi naman na mali daw file, sinasama yung mga arian ng anak niya, pamilya ng asawa niya.. lol! desperado n ang proksekusyon.
Title: Re: Impeachment Case of CJ Renato Corona
Post by: judE_Law on January 26, 2012, 11:40:48 PM
LEARNINGS FROM DAY 7: Memorable Exchanges, and One-Liners, AHA AHA!

DISCOVERY OF THE DAY: Senator Enrile authored the Internal Revenue Code and he highlighted specific provisions which the witness, BIR commissioner Kim Henares, couldn't answer. Also, I noticed Tupas talked less today. LOL!

MEMORABLE EXCHANGES   

1. SEN. SANTIAGO TO PROSEC LAWYER ARTHUR LIM: 'Don't override me. Don't revise your questions. Don't talk like that. Don't argue with me. Read the Anti-Graft and Corrupt Practices Act, letters a to k." Lawyer Arthur Lim complied. SANTIAGO: "Now, where in these provisions fall your verified complaint? Lim mentioned all. The senator retorted: "Ano ba ang batas na ini invoke mo? You're engaging in colloquy."

2.. SEN. JOKER TO KIM HENARES: "The ITRs are confidential. Why were they released? We should caution both prosecution and defense not to release documents until they are offered as evidence." TUPAS: "We haven't released them. We released the Bellagio documents only." SEN. PIA: "But I saw people flashing these on tv. Using them for the media is deceiving the public." ENRILE: "Release of the documents could be a basis for mistrial."

3. ESCUDERO: "Should there be only one specific complaint for each of the 8 hhis appointment? ENRILE: "That's for advicement. No definitive ruling on that."

4. WITNESS KIM HENARES: "Corona's daughter is not capable of buying the property." CUEVAS: "That's your opinion, and it's not allowed."

ONE-LINERS:

1.   ALAN CAYETANO: "The alleged ill-gotten wealth is explainable. There's presumption of innocence. The burden is on the prosecution to prove otherwise."
2.   CUEVAS: "There is nothing in their complaint about acts constituting a violation. Misleading questions. (smile impishly)
3.   JUSTICE CUEVAS, asking witness Kim Henares about her meeting with the Place to seek authority to release Corona's ITRS: "Did they tell you "Durugin mo si Corona?"
4.   ENRILE: "Incapacity to buy is not absolute evidence of ability to purchase."
5.   HONASAN: "The trials outside proceeds faster than inside this court." What about the presumption of innocence of the respondent, and the honor and reputation of the family of the respondent?
6.    SEN. SANTIAGO TO WITNESS KIM HENARES: "You're an ordinary witness: you're not allowed to form an opinion."
7.   ENRILE'S LECTURE TO TUPAS: "Specify documents to be requested from the banks. You were requesting all kinds of documents from real estate developers. You give the impression that you are fishing for evidence."
8.   SEN. ENRILE TO ARTHUR LIM: "You're too jumpy."

AHA! AHA! :

1.   GRAMMAR POLICE TAKE NOTE: Citing a paragraph in SALN form, Cayetano noted the following typo errors: "I hereby authorize the Ombudsman or his DULY REPRESENTATIVE to INCLUSE..."

2.   ENRILE: "Witnesses to be called later should be placed in a CONFINEMENT AREA so they won't hear. ESTRADA: May TV ba dun sa confinement area?

3.   I wonder why documents are marked Quintuple C, Quintuple F, etc. as I don't remember those marked as Quadruple in previous days.

4.   CUEVAS TO WITNESS KIM HENARES: "Were you in conference with Tupas?" KIM. Yes, I met HER in one of the meetings." Confirmed!
Title: Re: Impeachment Case of CJ Renato Corona
Post by: vir on January 27, 2012, 01:42:27 AM
nice!

wala bang Lapid?hahaha..
Title: Re: Impeachment Case of CJ Renato Corona
Post by: maykel on January 27, 2012, 08:48:45 AM
Quote4.   CUEVAS TO WITNESS KIM HENARES: "Were you in conference with Tupas?" KIM. Yes, I met HER in one of the meetings." Confirmed!
natawa ako dito.hehe
nice one jhong. ang tyaga mo ah.. :D
Title: Re: Impeachment Case of CJ Renato Corona
Post by: geo on January 27, 2012, 10:12:09 AM
Quote from: maykel on January 26, 2012, 10:38:54 AM
sinu ba talaga ang iniimbestigahan dito, si CJ Corona o yung wife nya? kasi parang base sa takbo ng case kahapon, ang wife nya ang hindi ayos ang Tax.. ang weird lang.
At saludo talaga ako kay Sen. Miriam, straight to the point talaga sya.


It is possible kasi na yung supposed "ill-gotten" wealth ni Corona ay maintransfer sa name ng asawa or anak. So possible na accessory to the crime yung family niya. But then again, they need to prove it pa.
Title: Re: Impeachment Case of CJ Renato Corona
Post by: judE_Law on January 27, 2012, 01:37:06 PM
Quote from: geo on January 27, 2012, 10:12:09 AM
Quote from: maykel on January 26, 2012, 10:38:54 AM
sinu ba talaga ang iniimbestigahan dito, si CJ Corona o yung wife nya? kasi parang base sa takbo ng case kahapon, ang wife nya ang hindi ayos ang Tax.. ang weird lang.
At saludo talaga ako kay Sen. Miriam, straight to the point talaga sya.


sabi nga ni Corona, ang anak niya ay isang physician sa US, sa sinusweldo ng anak niya.. wala bang kakayahan iyon bumili ng sariling bahay at lupa sa Pinas?

It is possible kasi na yung supposed "ill-gotten" wealth ni Corona ay maintransfer sa name ng asawa or anak. So possible na accessory to the crime yung family niya. But then again, they need to prove it pa.
Title: Re: Impeachment Case of CJ Renato Corona
Post by: geo on January 27, 2012, 01:53:46 PM
it does not necessarily mean na if you have a good earning job, even if professional pa siya sa US, it follows na you are capable of buying a house and lot. Graduate ng Ateneo mayaman na agad? But then again, anu ba basihan ng pagiging isang mayaman. Accdg to BIR Comm as far as the ITR is concern, that level of income is not capable of procuring a house and lot. Fair point naman. but then again, the basis of the Comm is only the ITR. Hindi naman included sa ITR ang income from other sources like stocks, etc. Still the burden of proof ay nasa prosecution.
Title: Re: Impeachment Case of CJ Renato Corona
Post by: maykel on January 27, 2012, 01:59:08 PM
Ang hirap kasi sa prosecution ay nagfifish lang sila ng proof. wala talaga silang matibay na evidence na magsusupport ng case. Nagdedepend lang sila sa kung ano ang ilalabas ng witness nila. Tignan nyo naman ang nangyayari, sila ang madalas mapahiya. Halatang minadali ang pagprocess ng impeachment eh.
Title: Re: Impeachment Case of CJ Renato Corona
Post by: enzoafterdark on January 28, 2012, 12:56:26 AM
mismatch talaga ang prosecution from the very start kaya nga naghahain na ng resolution to alter the prosecution team kasi kahit may viable case sila if they cant still prove its worth wala din  ;D
Title: Re: Impeachment Case of CJ Renato Corona
Post by: geo on January 28, 2012, 11:31:03 PM
and to Convict CJ Corona, there should be an INSURMOUNTABLE evidence.
Title: Re: Impeachment Case of CJ Renato Corona
Post by: judE_Law on January 29, 2012, 01:40:09 PM
Quote from: maykel on January 27, 2012, 01:59:08 PM
Ang hirap kasi sa prosecution ay nagfifish lang sila ng proof. wala talaga silang matibay na evidence na magsusupport ng case. Nagdedepend lang sila sa kung ano ang ilalabas ng witness nila. Tignan nyo naman ang nangyayari, sila ang madalas mapahiya. Halatang minadali ang pagprocess ng impeachment eh.

fishing talaga ang ginagawa nila..
100 witnesses ba naman... kahit na 20 lang kung matibay at sapat ang ebidensiya eh..
ang nakakagulat pa ay eto...
si raissa robles.. ang kawawang biktima ng bombing nung board exam nong isang taon...
kasama din daw sa kukuhaning witness.... miyembro yata ng APO si Corona.. lol!

(http://i42.tinypic.com/inzeqg.jpg)
Title: Re: Impeachment Case of CJ Renato Corona
Post by: judE_Law on January 29, 2012, 01:41:29 PM
from a blog....

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ANTI-CORONA RALLIES IN THE WORKS!
Watch out, ladies and gentlemen!

Reliable sources have informed that a Cabinet member has just met with officials of the Black and White Movement for rallies against Chief Justice Renato Corona and to pressure the Senate impeachment court.

My sources said the first mobilization or rally has been scheduled as early as MONDAY!

The rally will be portrayed in pro-Pnoy media outfits as solid proof that it's really the people, and not just Pnoy, who wants Corona out. Propagandists will make it appear that the people's patience for the removal of Corona is fast running thin.

My sources said Malacanang and the Corona prosecutors admit among themselves that with the poorly prepared articles of impeachment and weak evidence, they won't win in a fair trial.

"And Pnoy will certainly not take defeat sitting down," my sources said.

So whether they pull off this dirty trick starting Monday or any other day, DON'T BE FOOLED, people! If you truly believe in democracy and justice, DON'T LET ANYONE MANIPULATE YOU!

http://dangersigns.blogspot.com/2012/01/anti-corona-rallies-in-works.html
Title: Re: Impeachment Case of CJ Renato Corona
Post by: judE_Law on January 29, 2012, 01:48:07 PM
(http://i40.tinypic.com/f01e1.jpg)
Title: Re: Impeachment Case of CJ Renato Corona
Post by: maykel on January 30, 2012, 08:57:11 AM
Narinig ko lang kanina sa Unang Hirit. Ayon kay Arnold Clavio, ang member ng prosecution team ay may mga case daw na nakasampa against them. Base sa natandaan ko, may Ill-gotten wealth, mismanage funds at kung anu ano pa..
Title: Re: Impeachment Case of CJ Renato Corona
Post by: enzoafterdark on January 31, 2012, 01:30:09 AM
man-handling na talaga ginagawa kay corona

mukhang ayaw nila ng may leakage na ally ni gma ah hehe
Title: Re: Impeachment Case of CJ Renato Corona
Post by: carpediem on February 03, 2012, 12:46:29 AM
Just watch how the prosecution could lie http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjYcckhcSZI
Title: Re: Impeachment Case of CJ Renato Corona
Post by: joshgroban on February 03, 2012, 10:23:52 AM
haist...mukang di ma iimpeach si corona but nevertheless ...after all this hullabaloo... better to resign na lang kasi  baka kung anu ano pang kasinungalingan ang gawin sa kanya... position is just position..
Title: Re: Impeachment Case of CJ Renato Corona
Post by: judE_Law on February 05, 2012, 11:11:36 AM
Sen. Lapid delivers! oha! oha! ano ngyaon ang prosekusyon? lol!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUHKUWtD9ik&feature=related
Title: Re: Impeachment Case of CJ Renato Corona
Post by: judE_Law on February 05, 2012, 11:15:12 AM
"Case Study on Proper Court Etiquette: Always say the truth in court kids. Always!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnxqFBReJXg
Title: Re: Impeachment Case of CJ Renato Corona
Post by: maykel on February 10, 2012, 12:45:27 PM
hanggang kelan kaya matatapos ang fishing of evidence ng prosecution.... kelan kaya sila maglalabas ng matibay na ebidensya... sayang kasi ang oras eh.
Title: Re: Impeachment Case of CJ Renato Corona
Post by: Dong-U on February 13, 2012, 10:34:47 AM
basta pag may sala, dapat makulong.
Title: Re: Impeachment Case of CJ Renato Corona
Post by: ctan on February 13, 2012, 11:33:29 AM
Lahat naman nagkasala... So dapat ba lahat makulong?
Title: Re: Impeachment Case of CJ Renato Corona
Post by: geo on February 20, 2012, 05:22:18 PM
i think may merit yung case pertaining sa bank accounts ni Corona at sa SALN. I think kung better yung prosecution team, may laban sila.
Title: Re: Impeachment Case of CJ Renato Corona
Post by: Jrsanclaria on February 23, 2012, 01:46:35 AM
Quote from: geo on February 20, 2012, 05:22:18 PM
i think may merit yung case pertaining sa bank accounts ni Corona at sa SALN. I think kung better yung prosecution team, may laban sila.

i agree.! haha wala kc silang background sa mga ganitong case, at first hindi sila lahat lawyers, anung laban nila sa mga batikang lawyers like cuevas.

and , d naman nila kailangn patalsikin si corona, kung SALN lng ang prob., it should be fair., dapt tanggalin din ung mga officials na hindi din nmn ngpapasa ng SALN. natatakot lng si PNoy dahil pinupush ni corona ang pamamahagi ng hacienda luisita. haha - thats my opinion .
Title: Re: Impeachment Case of CJ Renato Corona
Post by: pinoybrusko on February 27, 2012, 08:09:26 PM
In my opinion, bago pa man magsimula ang Impeachment, alam na nila kung ano magiging resulta nito. Kahit ano pa man ang mapagusapan diyan ng depensa at prosecution may verdict na yan and that is ma-iimpeach si Corona.

Lahat ay for formality's sake na lang. Baka hinde niyo alam ang politics is also showbiz  ;D
Title: Re: Impeachment Case of CJ Renato Corona
Post by: geo on March 07, 2012, 01:28:36 PM
^pano ba namang hindi magiging showbiz eh karamihan sa mga lawmakers natin ay artista?
Title: Re: Impeachment Case of CJ Renato Corona
Post by: Isamu on March 31, 2012, 03:42:54 PM
Pasimtabi po sa lahat di namn po sa sinasabi kong maka gloria ako o iba pang pulitika gus2 ko lang sabhin na di nyo po ba nakita ang magagandang nagawa ni GMA ng syay namumuno? ang hirap sa ating mga filipino husga ng husga may mga nagawa ding project c gma 2lad ng LRT extension diba napapakina bangan natin laht i2 ngaun pag unlad ng ekonomiya kahit sa panandalian lamang pero di ko rin maiiwasan minsan na sabhin bakit naging presidente kpa mas malaki pa ang nanakaw mo kesa sa naging proyekto mo.



--guys may alam pa ba kaung isue kay CJ CORONA anyway kung ang alam nyo ay isa syang C.Justice kung ako ang magging isang senator judge itatanung ko kaagad panu ka nakakuha ng PH D sa UST at magnacumlaude pa pero kung hahanpin ninyo sa ust ang thesis at ph d nya wala silang maipakita dahil nga sa di maipaliwanag na paraan yung back ground nya sa supreme court sa website nila hindi 22o ang ibang impormasyon ang nakasulat doon pero sa ngaun pinag aaralan pa namn ng mga kamag aral ko ang mga inpormasyon na nasagap namn galing sa ibang site kung i2y 22o
Title: Re: Impeachment Case of CJ Renato Corona
Post by: pinoybrusko on April 02, 2012, 10:35:40 PM
hahaha nakakatawa ka naman isamu, usapan dito ay kay CJ pero napunta sa mga nagawa ni GMA na given naman na dapat gawin ng isang presidente ang mga nabanggit mo. Parang may masabi ka lang sa post mo.

Dinagdag mo pa yung second paragraph mo tungkol naman sa thesis at yung pagiging magna cumlaude ni CJ na hinde naman related sa impeachment case niya. Nakakatawa talaga hahaha
Title: Re: Impeachment Case of CJ Renato Corona
Post by: joshgroban on April 04, 2012, 09:23:04 PM
medyo napa react lang siguro si pareng isamu hehe
Title: Re: Impeachment Case of CJ Renato Corona
Post by: marvinofthefaintsmile on June 04, 2012, 09:44:14 AM
I would like to thank the protector of the farmers of Hacienda Luisita, Mr. Corona.

Ang iboboto ko lang sa halalan eh sina Mirriam, Marcos, at Arroyo.. Ngayon eh madidiktahan na ang gobyerno natin ni PNoy.. At puro kabobohan na naman ang ipapakitang gilas nya..

The only good part in this is wala na siyang ibang pwedeng maging dahilan para pagtakpan ang mga kbobohan nya..

Tpos ayaw nya pang ipakita sa madlang people ang mga accounts nya. Kase me mga ill-gotten wealth ang PNoy at si Drilon na yan. mga hayup!