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Men's Interests => Politics, Philosophy and Religion => Topic started by: marvinofthefaintsmile on October 02, 2012, 10:28:02 AM

Title: Anti Cyber Crime Law
Post by: marvinofthefaintsmile on October 02, 2012, 10:28:02 AM
Anong masasabi nyo sa isa pang inutil na batas ng kabobohan ni PNoy? Ang layon nito ay pigilan tayo sa pagpuna sa mga korakot na ginagawa ng mga pulitiko thru blogs at paggamit ng internet. Bawal na punahin ang mga pulitko na gumagamit ng mga taxes na binabayaran natin?
Title: Re: Anti Cyber Crime Law
Post by: Klutz on October 02, 2012, 12:24:34 PM
i might be against it.. d ko pa kasi nababasa yung paper eh
Title: Re: Anti Cyber Crime Law
Post by: superosmdummi on October 02, 2012, 12:27:01 PM
Sorry for the words na magagamit ko pero this law is very fucked up! I mean this law is very stupid. The government that we, people implemented is treating us like puppets and robots. Diba, dapat they will lead us? asan leadership don? GOVERNMENT NOW IS VERY HYPOCRITE, NAIVE, CORRUPT, AND VERY VERY STUPID!
Title: Re: Anti Cyber Crime Law
Post by: Klutz on October 02, 2012, 12:53:38 PM
^easy.. have you read the entirety of the law?
Title: Re: Anti Cyber Crime Law
Post by: marvinofthefaintsmile on October 02, 2012, 01:38:27 PM
^klutz, share your thoughts naman..
Title: Re: Anti Cyber Crime Law
Post by: marvinofthefaintsmile on October 02, 2012, 01:39:05 PM
ipaglaban natin ang ating freedom of expression!

v mag-sign in dito.
http://www.change.org/petitions/junk-the-cybercrime-prevention-law#share
Title: Re: Anti Cyber Crime Law
Post by: superosmdummi on October 02, 2012, 06:29:38 PM
Quote from: Klutz on October 02, 2012, 12:53:38 PM
^easy.. have you read the entirety of the law?


Yes I have. Bago kasi ako mag support or mag againts sa isang order, law or bill. Binabasa ko muna and pinag aaralan ko.
Title: Re: Anti Cyber Crime Law
Post by: marvinofthefaintsmile on October 03, 2012, 11:07:39 AM
Si tito sotto daw yung nagpalagay ng libel na part para maprotektahan daw ang mga pulitiko este ang mga taong bayan daw. chaaaar!
Title: Re: Anti Cyber Crime Law
Post by: superosmdummi on October 03, 2012, 03:49:44 PM
Quote from: marvinofthefaintsmile on October 03, 2012, 11:07:39 AM
Si tito sotto daw yung nagpalagay ng libel na part para maprotektahan daw ang mga pulitiko este ang mga taong bayan daw. chaaaar!


Noong January pa issue tong Law na to. Before bill pa lang siya. Sinasabi na proprotektahan daw ang people form libel. LIBEL is too vague to be defined. And wala sa bill of rights natin ang pagbabawal sa pagpapahayag ng ating damdamin, may it be tru speech or writing. So WALANG KASONG LIBEL!


Ang I cannot believe na issue ang LIBEL sa philippines eh kung sila ngang mga politiko nag sisiraan eh. DIMANDA KAYA NILA isa't isa. MGA TANGA!


I think that most of our government officials are better off doing movies & commercials, boxing, flirting, showing at Eat Bulaga, being businessmen rather than making SHITTY LAWS!
Title: Re: Anti Cyber Crime Law
Post by: marvinofthefaintsmile on October 03, 2012, 05:05:58 PM
dapat ang inaatupag nila eh ang hustisya ng mga ampatuan. can't u belive it? itong batas na to eh nagpondo pa sila ng 50Miliion pesos imbes na gamitin pampatayo ng mga schools at hospitals?
Title: Re: Anti Cyber Crime Law
Post by: superosmdummi on October 03, 2012, 05:11:19 PM
IKR! Tanga lang eh. Pero I've seen this coming. Simula palang eh. sa mga campaigns ni noynoy. One good thing na nangyari sa reign niya is yung K12 and di pa sa kanya nag start yun. super tagal ng process bago mapatupad pero ito in a matter of months meron na? how preposterous?


EDUCATION AND ENVIRONMENT first! Then implement ng laws para sa trabaho for our economy's sake. wag yung mga walang kuwentang laws gaya nito.
Title: Re: Anti Cyber Crime Law
Post by: marvinofthefaintsmile on October 03, 2012, 05:16:55 PM
Ito yung mga nag-agree sa batas na ito.

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Title: Re: Anti Cyber Crime Law
Post by: superosmdummi on October 03, 2012, 05:26:52 PM
see. look sino sino ba? Mga dating actors at mga nag ka issue na dati. AYAW LANG NILANG MA CRITICIZE sila! HYPOCRITES!
Title: Re: Anti Cyber Crime Law
Post by: marvinofthefaintsmile on October 03, 2012, 05:30:42 PM
yung isa pa sa kanila eh nangopya pa ng blog entry.
Title: Re: Anti Cyber Crime Law
Post by: luca_blight on October 03, 2012, 05:32:58 PM
senseless law
Title: Re: Anti Cyber Crime Law
Post by: superosmdummi on October 03, 2012, 05:47:03 PM
HECK YEAH! Kaya nga ang weird. TANGA LANG! Pinatupad kaagad ng di pinopolish? BOBO lang eh. Pnoy's time sucks! BIGTIME!
Title: Re: Anti Cyber Crime Law
Post by: marvinofthefaintsmile on October 05, 2012, 03:01:55 PM
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Title: Re: Anti Cyber Crime Law
Post by: pong on October 05, 2012, 11:36:00 PM
my 2 cents:

1) sinama ang Libel sa Section 4, pero sa batas ang unang sinabi ang siyang may mabigat na offense (which is illegal access, cybersex, interference) then huli lang yung libel. Bago ka makasuhan ng libelo, kailangan ng (a) publicity [yep, through internet], (b) malice [yep, pag ni-like mo, automatic may willful consent ka], (c) criminal consequence or imputation of natural or juridical person [except na lang kung sobrang balat-sibuyas nung makabasa]:

Liability:
QuoteArt. 355. Libel means by writings or similar means. — A libel committed by means of writing, x x x shall be punished by prision correccional in its minimum and medium periods or a fine ranging from 200 to 6,000 pesos, or both, in addition to the civil action which may be brought by the offended party.
"take note, 1951 pa itong batas na ito hahaha"

2) Magkakaroon ka lang ng liability pag in-encourage mo ang pag-commit ng cybercrime. (Sec. 5, RA 10175). Hindi komo ni-like mo ang isang libelous act, liable ka na. Pwede kung shinare mo; or ni-repost. Pero of all grave offenses, since huling sinabi yung libel: pinaka-minor offense siya. (Interpretation of law)

3) Constitution pa rin ang mananaig. (Art. III, Sec. 4; Bill of Rights). Since hawak ni Noynoy ang Supreme Court {another topic, maraming balita regarding Sereno}, maaaring i-declare nila yung batas na constitutional (kahit na halatang-halatang unconstitutional).

4) Sa huli, halatang-halatang hindi nagbabasa si Noynoy ng pipirmahan niya! HAHAHA :D


P.S. na-enlighten lang ako nung ni-discuss sa akin nung kaklase kong UP Prof. Hope this helps
Title: Re: Anti Cyber Crime Law
Post by: Lanchie on October 06, 2012, 12:01:59 AM
Dura lex, sed lex.
Title: Re: Anti Cyber Crime Law
Post by: carpediem on October 06, 2012, 12:17:07 AM
It's open to a lot of [mis]interpretations, which is not good.

Anyway, knowing the trigger-happy nature of people today, I do not believe liking or resharing automatically constitute malice.
Title: Re: Anti Cyber Crime Law
Post by: Lanchie on October 06, 2012, 12:19:29 AM
An interpretation i heard was it is if we relate this to the libel articl.e
Title: Re: Anti Cyber Crime Law
Post by: geo on October 07, 2012, 12:01:34 PM
Quote from: Lanchie on October 06, 2012, 12:01:59 AM
Dura lex, sed lex.

That may be the case but they created that law for their own selfish motives....
Title: Re: Anti Cyber Crime Law
Post by: bukojob on October 07, 2012, 09:21:35 PM
Quote from: geo on October 07, 2012, 12:01:34 PM
Quote from: Lanchie on October 06, 2012, 12:01:59 AM
Dura lex, sed lex.

That may be the case but they created that law for their own selfish motives....

I agree. Sino ba ang madalas i-bash ng online community? mosty celebs and politicians. These "famous" people are of course somewhat obliged to keep a "public image" so hindi sila magiging "libelous" .At yang mga yan, may pambayad yan ng kung anong gusto nila na pwedeng i download ng masa sa internet.

Edit: kung gusto nila lagyan ng rules ang paggamit ko sa internet. bayaran nila ang internet ko!
Title: Re: Anti Cyber Crime Law
Post by: geo on October 07, 2012, 10:12:31 PM
how ironic... galit na galit itong mga public figures na to kapag napupuna sila.....wala na raw sila privacy.... WTF!... that is the price to pay for being a public figure....gusto nyo ng katanyagan at limelight diba? Pay the price for being a public figure (claudine-tulfo incident)..... I have to agree that some people are getting way overboard and I condemn them for doing those things.....Sa simula pa lang, alam na nila na mawawalan sila ng privacy kapag naging artista or tumakbo sila sa posisyion sa gobyerno...Kaya be man enough sotto...
Title: Re: Anti Cyber Crime Law
Post by: Jon on October 08, 2012, 09:08:59 AM
im jon_the_wicked

a cyber criminal...
Title: Re: Anti Cyber Crime Law
Post by: marvinofthefaintsmile on October 08, 2012, 10:26:07 AM
sabi nila.. dapat jejemon daw ang paglalagay ng status sa fb or gay lingo para di mahuli.
Title: Re: Anti Cyber Crime Law
Post by: superosmdummi on October 08, 2012, 12:05:37 PM
^sakit sa mata at utak noon. Well, for those who aren't jeje and do not know swardspeak.
Title: Re: Anti Cyber Crime Law
Post by: marvinofthefaintsmile on October 09, 2012, 03:16:10 PM
http://www.interaksyon.com/article/45096/supreme-court-issues-tro-on-anti-cybercrime-act
Title: Re: Anti Cyber Crime Law
Post by: Isamu on October 09, 2012, 05:26:43 PM
Quote from: marvinofthefaintsmile on October 03, 2012, 05:16:55 PM
Ito yung mga nag-agree sa batas na ito.

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eh mga TANG INA PLA NYAN MGA YAN BULLSHIT MGA FUCK YOU MGA POTANG INA NILA SABHIN NILA KAYA NILA PINATUPAD ANG CYBER CRIME LAW DAHIL AYAW NILANG NABABATIKOS SILA VIA INTERNET DAHIL ANG GUSTO LANG NILANG IPOST NATIN SA INTERNET AY PURO MABUBUTI AT NAGPAPATUNAY NA TALGANG ITS MORE FUN IN THE PHILIPPINES INANG NYAN CYBER CRIME LAW PA SILANG NALALAMN MGA !@#$%^&*()_
Title: Re: Anti Cyber Crime Law
Post by: marvinofthefaintsmile on October 10, 2012, 10:05:24 AM
^at gumastos pa sila ng milyung-milyong piso para lang gawin ang batas na to.. Nasayang lang.. Kung pinagpatayo lang ito ng skwelahan at hospital eh me napala pa tayo.. "Ang tuwid na daan" ni Pnoy nga naman.. oh. o..
Title: Re: Anti Cyber Crime Law
Post by: Lanchie on October 11, 2012, 01:16:32 AM
Priorities. Priorites.
Title: Re: Anti Cyber Crime Law
Post by: Jon on March 13, 2013, 07:46:30 AM
im a cyber criminal.

so if meron talagang law for this, matagal na akong may kaso. :'(

Title: Re: Anti Cyber Crime Law
Post by: marvinofthefaintsmile on March 13, 2013, 01:59:45 PM
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