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Started by Mr.Yos0, July 11, 2010, 11:29:17 PM

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vortex

Quote from: carpediem on December 01, 2011, 11:23:38 PM
ok i respect that
hahaha...naguluhan ka ano? Ganito na lang, siguro sabihin na lang nating, magka-iba ang paggawa ng mabuti sa paggawa ng tama...hahaha

carpediem


vir

Quote from: vortex on December 02, 2011, 02:29:04 PM
Quote from: carpediem on December 01, 2011, 11:23:38 PM
ok i respect that
hahaha...naguluhan ka ano? Ganito na lang, siguro sabihin na lang nating, magka-iba ang paggawa ng mabuti sa paggawa ng tama...hahaha

ano nga ba pinagkaiba?

ang paggawa ng mabuti ay ayon sa kagustuhan ng Diyos?

at ang paggawa ng tama ay base sa sarili mong desisyon,sa kung ano ang tingin mong tama kaht pa taliwas sa kagustuhan ng Diyos?

vortex

Quote from: vir on December 03, 2011, 05:35:22 AM
Quote from: vortex on December 02, 2011, 02:29:04 PM
Quote from: carpediem on December 01, 2011, 11:23:38 PM
ok i respect that
hahaha...naguluhan ka ano? Ganito na lang, siguro sabihin na lang nating, magka-iba ang paggawa ng mabuti sa paggawa ng tama...hahaha

ano nga ba pinagkaiba?

ang paggawa ng mabuti ay ayon sa kagustuhan ng Diyos?

at ang paggawa ng tama ay base sa sarili mong desisyon,sa kung ano ang tingin mong tama kaht pa taliwas sa kagustuhan ng Diyos?
OT:
ahm,sa mata natin parehong maganda ang paningin natin sa mabuti at tama.
Ganito na lang siguro ang analogy:
halimbawa may isang ama na nawalan ng trabaho at walang maipakain sa kanyang pamilya.
Out of desperation, naisip nya na ang mabuti nyang magagawa is kumita ng pera sa maling paraan (magnakaw etc). Pero hindi tama ang pamamaraan nya.
isa kang pulis at may ipinakulong ka na kriminal, hindi mabuti para sa pamilya nya ang iyong ginawa pero ginawa mo naman ang tama.
may nakita kang mali na ginagawa ng officemate mo, pero dahil ayaw mo ng gulo, naisip mo ang manahimik ka na lamang, mabuti ang ginawa mo para hind kayo magkagulo, pero siyempre hindi iyon tama dahil hindi mo maitatama ang mali nya.

May mga pulitiko na gumagawa ng mabuti out of publicity, but not sincerely, hind iyon tama.
May mga tao na gumagawa ng mabuti ayon sa kagustuhan nila, iyon ang tama.

Humahaba na yung nasabi ko, nahihirapan na rin ako mag-explain. hehehe...Ganito na lang, siguro kapag nakasama ako sa Eyeball itanong nyo ulet sa akin ito, iyun ay  kung maaalala ko pa. hahaha...

Pareho namang ayon sa kagustuhan ng Diyos ang paggawa ng mabuti at tama, minsan nga lang may sarili ng standard ang tao ng tama at mabuti.

vir

^ hi vortex, salamat sa iyong words of wisdom..will keep that in mind..

MaRfZ


don.bagsit

i'm baptized as a catholic, pero the most important thing for me is yung di ka makakasakit ng kapwa...di natin alam kung ano ang tamang religion...i just do the basic stuff...yung may compassion...di ko practice yung pinaka unang utos

pinoybrusko

Quote from: carpediem on November 26, 2011, 08:16:20 PM
People are missing the point.

Simply put, one can be good without believing. Morality does not come from God.

Quote from: pinoybrusko on November 25, 2011, 06:46:23 PM
unlike an unbeliever, he does good only for himself and to others but no bearing with God.

Now isn't it better to be good for goodness's sake, and not because you don't want to burn in hell?


true, you can be good without believing. You have decided to stop believing, whatever that reason is, I won't ask. For sure, everyone of us started we believe on something because of the people around us and the community we live in.

In your second statement, I don't buy the idea doing good to others without a purpose because in everything we do may reason, motive or intention dapat. Pag walang basis ang paggawa ng mabuti, useless ang gumawa ng mabuti, right?

carpediem

Quote from: pinoybrusko on December 18, 2011, 12:35:19 AM
I don't buy the idea doing good to others without a purpose because in everything we do may reason, motive or intention dapat. Pag walang basis ang paggawa ng mabuti, useless ang gumawa ng mabuti, right?

As a thought experiment, let's say that there's no heaven and hell, and God said that there is no afterlife, and man won't be rewarded or punished for his deeds. The question is would you still do good?

Doing good is good for ourselves. Man is altruistic because being so is beneficial for the survival of the species, as he has learned from hundreds of thousands of years of human evolution.

pinoybrusko

^ the thing is, we can't detached all the things you mentioned, heaven and hell, etc. If you do that, you're not living in this world. Anong purpose of removing those things? Kaya nga tayo gumagawa ng mabuti sa ibang tao ay dahil for our benefit na din.

Pwede ka ba gumawa ng mabuti ng walang dahilan? Ano yun?

carpediem

^ I say consider it as a thought experiment. Not everyone believes in the literal heaven and hell, even among Christians.

QuotePwede ka ba gumawa ng mabuti ng walang dahilan? Ano yun?

Yes, because as I've said, a human being is an altruistic being. Man is capable of doing good for goodness's sake, without the need to be promised the eternal reward in heaven, or threatened the eternal damnation in hell. To suggest otherwise is an insult to the morality that man has learned over thousands of years of evolution.

joshgroban

Quote from: don.bagsit on December 08, 2011, 04:42:46 PM
i'm baptized as a catholic, pero the most important thing for me is yung di ka makakasakit ng kapwa...di natin alam kung ano ang tamang religion...i just do the basic stuff...yung may compassion...di ko practice yung pinaka unang utos

babalik at babalik pa rin sa personal reationship natin sa God...not really a religion kaya nga ako not so much affected pag naimbitahan na umattend ng kasal sa isang different sect kasi mas importante sakin yung tao kesa sa religion nya na sinasabi... ang point ko lang ... if we have love in our hearts we have God... although andun pa rin yung uncompromising life pero if dying to the things i love to do means bringing you closer to God then by all means im doing it for the sake of the person who are created in the image of God

don.bagsit

Quote from: joshgroban on January 02, 2012, 07:26:54 AM
Quote from: don.bagsit on December 08, 2011, 04:42:46 PM
i'm baptized as a catholic, pero the most important thing for me is yung di ka makakasakit ng kapwa...di natin alam kung ano ang tamang religion...i just do the basic stuff...yung may compassion...di ko practice yung pinaka unang utos

babalik at babalik pa rin sa personal reationship natin sa God...not really a religion kaya nga ako not so much affected pag naimbitahan na umattend ng kasal sa isang different sect kasi mas importante sakin yung tao kesa sa religion nya na sinasabi... ang point ko lang ... if we have love in our hearts we have God... although andun pa rin yung uncompromising life pero if dying to the things i love to do means bringing you closer to God then by all means im doing it for the sake of the person who are created in the image of God

Yung part na gumagawa ka ng mabuti kasi gusto mong mapalapit sa Diyos...yan yung part na naguguluhan ako...parang ang dating is gumagawa ka ng mabuti kasi ayaw mong maparusahan nya...

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alrafa

Muslim and I am proud to be.
I heard that Buddhism nothing say about religion, is it true?   

Chris

Quote from: alrafa on January 21, 2012, 10:54:50 PM
Muslim and I am proud to be.
I heard that Buddhism nothing say about religion, is it true?

welcome to the forums alrafa. are you from the Philippines?