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Started by Mr.Yos0, July 12, 2010, 06:29:36 PM

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pinoybrusko

Jude, hinde lang naman media ang may kasalanan dito pati yung kapulisan, DILG at ibang concerned groups ng pamahalaan at personalities kasali din dito. The way you explain it, parang media lang ang sinisisi dito  ;D

don't worry, di ka kasali sa IIRC report. wala ka naman dun sa hostage crisis incident hehehe

ctan

Bottomline here is that media has played its part in what seems to be the most tragic hostage crisis in the Philippines. And lesson learned is that discretion is something not mandated, but is something innate and natural. :-)

judE_Law

Quote from: ctan on October 03, 2010, 06:08:30 PM
Bottomline here is that media has played its part in what seems to be the most tragic hostage crisis in the Philippines. And lesson learned is that discretion is something not mandated, but is something innate and natural. :-)

nadale mo!


carpediem.. kung mangyari man ulit iyon.. ico-cover at ico-cover pa rin namin ang istorya na yun!
ikaw ba ng napapanood mo iyon.. naisip mo ba na patayin ang telebisyon mo o glued ka rin sa panonood ng mga pangyayari?

carpediem

Quotecarpediem.. kung mangyari man ulit iyon.. ico-cover at ico-cover pa rin namin ang istorya na yun!

Pwede naman after diba?

Quoteikaw ba ng napapanood mo iyon.. naisip mo ba na patayin ang telebisyon mo o glued ka rin sa panonood ng mga pangyayari?

I see some false reasoning coming up. So what kung glued ang mga tao? Di na pwede istop yung reporting? It's like saying it is okay to continue selling drugs since people are addicted to them. Sorry for the analogy, it does not match properly, but I think it serves to show my point.

Mr.Yos0


judE_Law

#65
Quote from: carpediem on October 04, 2010, 08:18:12 PM
Quotecarpediem.. kung mangyari man ulit iyon.. ico-cover at ico-cover pa rin namin ang istorya na yun!

Pwede naman after diba?

Quoteikaw ba ng napapanood mo iyon.. naisip mo ba na patayin ang telebisyon mo o glued ka rin sa panonood ng mga pangyayari?

I see some false reasoning coming up. So what kung glued ang mga tao? Di na pwede istop yung reporting? It's like saying it is okay to continue selling drugs since people are addicted to them. Sorry for the analogy, it does not match properly, but I think it serves to show my point.

pwede naman after? you gotta be kidding.. hindi iyon lindol.. its a developing story! you'll never know what will happen next.. sadly, tragic ang katapusan.

carpediem

^ sigh, 2 months after the incident. just read the IIRC report

Here's the Broadcast Code of KBP, as outlined in the report

Crime and Crisis Situations

Sec. 1. The coverage of crimes in progress or crisis situations such as hostage-taking or kidnapping shall not put lives in greater danger than what is already inherent in the situation. Such coverage should be restrained and care should be taken so as not to hinder or obstruct efforts of authorities to resolve the situation.

Sec. 2. A coverage should avoid inflicting undue shock and pain to families and loved ones of victims of crimes, crisis situations, disasters, accidents, and other tragedies.

Sec. 3. The identity of victims of crimes or crisis situations in progress shall not be announced until the situation has been resolved or their names have been released by the authorities. The names of fatalities should be aired only when their next of kin have been notified or their names released, by the authorities.

Sec. 4. The coverage of crime or crisis situations shall not provide vital information or offer comfort or support to the perpetrators.

Sec. 5. Stations are encouraged to adopt standard operating procedures (SOP's) consistent with this Code to govern the conduct of their news personnel during the coverage of crime and crisis situations.

judE_Law

#67
^sadly, this Code applies only to all TV and Radio Stations that are member of KBP. in case you don't know, GMA 7 is no longer a member of KBP and inside sources says that at the height of the hostage crisis the news that the hostage taker is watching inside the bus is 24 oras. so pano papanagutin ng KBP ang hindi naman niya miyembro kung talagang may nilabag siyang ginawa?

again, inuulit ko.. hindi maikakaila na may ilang personalidad sa media ang talagang masasabing lumabag di lamang sa Code ng KBP kundi pati na rin sa batas.. pero, hindi dapat lahatin.

hanggat walang inilalabas na guidelines ang Gobyerno sa kung paano dapat iko-cover ang isang sitwasyon gaya ng nangyaring hostage crisis, walang sinuman na makapagsasabi ng kung hanggang saan dapat i-cover ang balita kundi sa pamunuan mismo ng media na kinaaaniban nito.




Palace nixes mandatory news blackout during crisis situationsJAM L. SISANTE
08/31/2010 | 03:35 PM

  Share  Malacañang is not keen on supporting  a proposal in Congress to automatically impose news blackouts during crisis situations despite criticisms of the media's live coverage of the Aug. 23 Manila hostage tragedy that left eight Hong Kong tourists dead.

At a press conference Tuesday, Presidential Communications Development and Strategic Planning head Ricky Carandang said the government still considers the imposition of news blackouts as a "last resort" applicable only in "extreme cases."

"As you saw we were hesitant to impose news blackouts last time around," said Carandang, a broadcast journalist prior to his appointment to government.

Malacañang did not impose a news blackout during the daylong hostage drama, although President Benigno Aquino III later said the media coverage may have "severely hampered" police operations because the hostage-taker, former Senior Inspector Rolando Mendoza, had monitored the movements of the police through television and radio news.

At least two journalists had also communicated with Mendoza through mobile phone during the hostage crisis.

Media rights, responsibility

Carandang said although the media has a responsibility to report such events, a gray area remains on how far such rights can be extended.

"I still believe that the media has a responsibility and a right to report on events like that. My question is, how far do those rights extend? And at this point we're not talking about a media blackout," he said.

A day after the hostage tragedy, Cebu Rep. Luis Quisumbing filed House Bill No. 2737 proposing the imposition of a news blackout during crisis situations.

The proposed measure prohibits media personnel from reporting positions, movements and actions of the police and military during hostage-taking situations and other similar incidents like bomb threats, coup d' etat, and kidnapping.

Quisumbing has insisted his bill does not aim to curtail press freedom. "Our bill guarantees that once the crisis is settled, media will have full access to information about the police or military operations and coverage shall not be restricted."

Article III, Section 4 of the 1987 Constitution states that "No law shall be passed abridging the freedom of speech, of expression, or of the press, or the right of the people peaceably to assemble and petition the government for redress of grievances."

The Center for Media Freedom and Responsibility (CMFR) has urged media organizations to reject proposals to legislate mandatory news blackouts, but asked them to regulate their own ranks during sensitive situations.

"No matter how seemingly well meaning, in the Philippine experience, such bills end up covering more than they originally intended. With public support... such bills will take on lives of their own, and are likely to end up imposing greater restrictions on press freedom itself," the group said.

carpediem

^ again, just read the IIRC report

"This is not to say that media is free from responsibility because there are ethical rules and guidelines that they should have observed when it became evident that what was being covered and aired were tactical details. Self-restraint or self-regulation by the media outlets concerned should have been observed."

angelo

obvious naman lahat may na-contribute to the sad ending. natapos na yan. sana lang natuto ang lahat.

ang masaklap kasi kapag nauulit ang mali.

pinoybrusko

Quote from: angelo on October 25, 2010, 10:17:39 AM
obvious naman lahat may na-contribute to the sad ending. natapos na yan. sana lang natuto ang lahat.

ang masaklap kasi kapag nauulit ang mali.


paano pag naulit?  ;D walang sisihan pa din?

judE_Law

Quote from: carpediem on October 24, 2010, 09:52:32 PM
^ again, just read the IIRC report

"This is not to say that media is free from responsibility because there are ethical rules and guidelines that they should have observed when it became evident that what was being covered and aired were tactical details. Self-restraint or self-regulation by the media outlets concerned should have been observed."

the question is.. ano yung self restraint na yun? hanggang saan? walang maibigay ang gobyerno.. so when media put it in their hands, sinong may karapatang magsabi sa kanila na lumalabag na sila kung ang sinasabi eh self restraint or self regulation? kung ang tingin ng media ay dapat lang na ipakita yung mahalagang istorya ng nangyayari?? you don't get it carpediem.. ang solusyon lang naman talaga, gumawa dapat ang gobyerno ng malinaw na batas kaugnay ng media coverage.. at hindi darating yung punto na sisisihin ulit ang media pag pumalpak ang operasyon nila.

carpediem

#72
^ lol you are the one not getting it. It wouldn't be called self-restraint if the goverment has to dictate it. Kaya nga may "self" sa self-restraint and self-regulation e. Tsaka, sinisi ba lahat sa media?

The questions is, kapag umulit ang insidente, magkakaroon ba ng self-restraint? Well according to your previous post, ganun parin mangyayari kasi walang batas para sa media coverage.

Sabi nga ni bursko, paano pag naulit? walang sisihan pa din?

angelo

dapat hindi na nauulit. katangahan na talaga ang tawag doon.
may mali. dapat naitama na.

judE_Law

#74
Quote from: carpediem on October 25, 2010, 08:41:49 PM
^ lol you are the one not getting it. It wouldn't be called self-restraint if the goverment has to dictate it. Kaya nga may "self" sa self-restraint and self-regulation e. Tsaka, sinisi ba lahat sa media?

The questions is, kapag umulit ang insidente, magkakaroon ba ng self-restraint? Well according to your previous post, ganun parin mangyayari kasi walang batas para sa media coverage.

Sabi nga ni bursko, paano pag naulit? walang sisihan pa din?


haha.. how would you explain self restraint??? if the media thinks that at that moment of time ay may self regulation o restraint naman sa team nila? if the government at that time sa tingin niya na nalalabag na yung code na pino-point out mo.. bakit hindi sila gumagawa ng aksiyon? kasi nga self restraint diba??  you'll never know/understand the other side of the story. don't you think its better na nag-utos ang gobyerno ng news blackout? kesa hayaang mag self regulate ang media? hindi ba mas mainam na lahat ng media ay may sinusunod na iisang batayan pagdating sa mga ganung coverage? kesa pagtalunan ulit sa imbestigasyon kung lumabag ba o hindi ang media?