bitay sa 3 pinay sa china

[Luc]

na suspend ung bitay, diba? anu latest nito?

[judE_Law]

isang isla sa spratlys kada isang pinoy... 

[joshgroban]

na suspend ung bitay, diba? anu latest nito?

Disappointing si binay as a diplomat
something fishy is happening
Hinde man lang naelaborate yung meaning ng 'suspend the execution until the extent of the law.' dahil nahiya... sigh.

Dapat nagstay longer siya sa China, did some PR, lagay ng konting we see that the EDSA revolution is like the China's revolution... blah blah blah.  "The People's Republic" is a merciful just country. blah blah.
We would like to form a solid partnership against drug trafficking and take an active step on the drug mule thingy.. blahblah. At lahat na ng adjectives, superlatives, praises, more concrete words.

ang nangyari.. parang bumalik lang siya at nagulat na lang.

[judE_Law]

maedyo nkakapagtaka talaga... hindi mo talaga maiiwasang may lihim na pinag-usapan o kapalit yung negosasyon..



eh what about yung kay Mar Roxas na pinadala siya bilang emisaryo ng bansa sa Taiwan..
what's your take on this?
parang hindi tama diba?

[carpediem]

^ parang di tama ang alin: Mar Roxas bilang emisaryo, pagpapadala ng emisaryo sa Taiwan, pagdeport ng Taiwanese sa China, o pagkakagalit ng Taiwan?

[joshgroban]

maedyo nkakapagtaka talaga... hindi mo talaga maiiwasang may lihim na pinag-usapan o kapalit yung negosasyon..



eh what about yung kay Mar Roxas na pinadala siya bilang emisaryo ng bansa sa Taiwan..
what's your take on this?
parang hindi tama diba?

di gagawin ni pinoy yan....bastusan na yan

[judE_Law]

maedyo nkakapagtaka talaga... hindi mo talaga maiiwasang may lihim na pinag-usapan o kapalit yung negosasyon..



eh what about yung kay Mar Roxas na pinadala siya bilang emisaryo ng bansa sa Taiwan..
what's your take on this?
parang hindi tama diba?

di gagawin ni pinoy yan....bastusan na yan

haha.. ginawa niya na josh...
update: sinabi ni PNOY sa isang pagtitipon kaninang umaga na hindi succesful ang trip ni Mar sa Taiwan.. kasi lalo lang nagdemand ng Apology ang pamahalaan ng Taiwan mula sa Gobyerno ng Pilipinas. ero Iginiit ni Pnoy na hindi siya magso-sorry.

[joshgroban]

ganun... ano kaya binargain ni binay at di nagawa ni mar

[judE_Law]

ganun... ano kaya binargain ni binay at di nagawa ni mar

actually wala pang bina-bargain si Binay, kaya nga hinold lang yung pagbitay, pero kung meron man malamang pinakawalan na yung tatlo.. am sure kung anuman yung hiniling ng chinese government sa Pinas ay inihatid na ito ni Binay kay PNOY, nasa sa kanya na ngayon kung pagbibigyan iyon o bibitayin ang tatlong pinoy.

[carpediem]

The China executions revealed serious Philippine media flaws
AS I WRECK THIS CHAIR By William M. Esposo (The Philippine Star)

The recent OFW (overseas Foreign worker) issues  specifically the deferred China executions of Filipino drug mules  underscored what convinces some people that Philippine media are one of the causes why we as a country cannot get our act together.

I will be the last to want to have any form of media censorship or prior restraint. However, it is one thing to have a free press and another to have an irresponsible press. When we consider the big Information Gap in our country — one of the foundations of the big Philippine Wealth Gap — that reflects how our media had failed miserably.   

Having demonstrated the most glaring example of questionable editorial judgment and reporting, we cite the recent case of ABS-CBN, the network that claims to be the most trusted.

Let's dissect the ABS-CBN coverage of the China executions from February 11 up to February 21, as follows:

1. Last February 11, TV Patrol aired the plight of three Filipino drug mules in China who were about to be executed starting February 21. They even named one of the three OFWs despite orders from our Department of Foreign Affairs (DFA) not do so until cleared by them. The TV Patrol reporting of this episode creates the impression that the OFWs were the victims of government neglect instead of crimes that they had committed. It was a melodrama where friends and kin of the OFWs were claiming innocence.

2. On the week of February 14 to 18, when it became obvious that government was not lacking in earnest efforts to address the scheduled executions in China and after Vice President Jojo Binay managed to get a deferment of the executions, the ABS-CBN slant shifted to speculating on what the government conceded to China in order to get the deferment of execution.

3. During the TV Patrol episodes of these dates, the network ran an online TEXT POLL to gauge how Filipinos felt about the death sentences of the three OFWs in China. By an overwhelming margin, those who responded felt that the three Filipino drug mules in China deserved the sentences that they received.

4. In highlighting the hopelessness of the three OFWs in China, the network kept saying that China had denied similar requests from the British and Japanese governments for its nationals who were meted the same death sentence for drug trafficking.

Following is where I think the network should have been more circumspect:

1. It was unfair to give the impression which the February 11 TV Patrol "melodrama" created — that the government has been remiss in trying to soften China's position. The fact is President Noynoy Aquino (P-Noy) even brought this matter up with China's top official in a recent international meeting. There was even speculation that this was part of the Philippine boycott of the Nobel event in Oslo, out of deference to China. The fact is the DFA has been making representations and helping the convicted OFWs.

2. Perhaps owing to what can be considered a Filipino national inferiority complex, the mission to prevent the executions was made to appear like an impossible dream — citing how China refused to accommodate similar requests from the British and the Japanese. Nobody ever considered that in this issue, we Filipinos have distinct advantages over the British and Japanese. The Chinese have not forgotten the British role in the Opium Wars and the quashing of the Boxer Rebellion which triggered decades of turmoil in China. The Chinese have also not forgotten Japanese atrocities in China during World War II. We do not have such a baggage.

3. It was rather dense of media not to have detected the signs that a positive note was in the air after P-Noy boldly stated that the executions will test the limits of Philippine-China relations and after Vice President Binay was given the signal to proceed to China. I was not surprised when VP Jojo Binay immediately got a deferment but it seems that everybody else in media here were stunned.

In one of the ABS-CBN telecasts, it was even mentioned that the P-Noy government may have surrendered to China our claims to the oil-rich Spratlys, just to have that deferment. That was baseless just as it was stupid. Why will P-Noy cede something as valuable as the Spratlys to China when it is very clear that Filipinos do not blame the government for the death sentences of the three OFWs? Do you see the son of Ninoy and Cory Aquino doing that?

A top Asian diplomat I met last February 21 at the book launch of Ambassador (to ASEAN) Menito Villacorta provided a very good insight to why China allowed a deferment. This top Asian diplomat represents a country with extensive dealings with China over several centuries.

His take on China's favorable decision to defer the executions was that it China's way of balancing recent hard line positions that they have taken against the P-Noy government, especially after the August 23, 2010 Manila Hostage Crisis. China, he explained, has a keen interest in the Philippines and would not want to push P-Noy into the exclusive embrace of the US.

I think P-Noy knew this which is why he was so bold to state that the executions will test the limits of Philippine-China relations. He did not have to concede anything like the Spratlys to China. China would have been happy if we did not allow the US to establish an offensive military capability in Mindanao and other parts of our country which can be used against China. It is also for our own good that the US does not get to establish that offensive military capability here lest we become the ground zero of a US-China conflict.

Up to the mid-1980s, television newscasts did not adopt this format which I call the "tabloidization" of the TV news. In pursuit of bigger ratings and therefore ad revenue, it was decided to pattern the TV news after the high circulating tabloids. That means putting too much weight on showbiz, crime, melodrama and scandal.

Television being the highest source of news now, are you surprised that we are suffering from a serious Information Gap?

http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=661292&publicationSubCategoryId=64

[judE_Law]

The China executions revealed serious Philippine media flaws
AS I WRECK THIS CHAIR By William M. Esposo (The Philippine Star)

The recent OFW (overseas Foreign worker) issues  specifically the deferred China executions of Filipino drug mules  underscored what convinces some people that Philippine media are one of the causes why we as a country cannot get our act together.

I will be the last to want to have any form of media censorship or prior restraint. However, it is one thing to have a free press and another to have an irresponsible press. When we consider the big Information Gap in our country — one of the foundations of the big Philippine Wealth Gap — that reflects how our media had failed miserably.   

Having demonstrated the most glaring example of questionable editorial judgment and reporting, we cite the recent case of ABS-CBN, the network that claims to be the most trusted.

Let's dissect the ABS-CBN coverage of the China executions from February 11 up to February 21, as follows:

1. Last February 11, TV Patrol aired the plight of three Filipino drug mules in China who were about to be executed starting February 21. They even named one of the three OFWs despite orders from our Department of Foreign Affairs (DFA) not do so until cleared by them. The TV Patrol reporting of this episode creates the impression that the OFWs were the victims of government neglect instead of crimes that they had committed. It was a melodrama where friends and kin of the OFWs were claiming innocence.

2. On the week of February 14 to 18, when it became obvious that government was not lacking in earnest efforts to address the scheduled executions in China and after Vice President Jojo Binay managed to get a deferment of the executions, the ABS-CBN slant shifted to speculating on what the government conceded to China in order to get the deferment of execution.

3. During the TV Patrol episodes of these dates, the network ran an online TEXT POLL to gauge how Filipinos felt about the death sentences of the three OFWs in China. By an overwhelming margin, those who responded felt that the three Filipino drug mules in China deserved the sentences that they received.

4. In highlighting the hopelessness of the three OFWs in China, the network kept saying that China had denied similar requests from the British and Japanese governments for its nationals who were meted the same death sentence for drug trafficking.

Following is where I think the network should have been more circumspect:

1. It was unfair to give the impression which the February 11 TV Patrol "melodrama" created — that the government has been remiss in trying to soften China's position. The fact is President Noynoy Aquino (P-Noy) even brought this matter up with China's top official in a recent international meeting. There was even speculation that this was part of the Philippine boycott of the Nobel event in Oslo, out of deference to China. The fact is the DFA has been making representations and helping the convicted OFWs.

2. Perhaps owing to what can be considered a Filipino national inferiority complex, the mission to prevent the executions was made to appear like an impossible dream — citing how China refused to accommodate similar requests from the British and the Japanese. Nobody ever considered that in this issue, we Filipinos have distinct advantages over the British and Japanese. The Chinese have not forgotten the British role in the Opium Wars and the quashing of the Boxer Rebellion which triggered decades of turmoil in China. The Chinese have also not forgotten Japanese atrocities in China during World War II. We do not have such a baggage.

3. It was rather dense of media not to have detected the signs that a positive note was in the air after P-Noy boldly stated that the executions will test the limits of Philippine-China relations and after Vice President Binay was given the signal to proceed to China. I was not surprised when VP Jojo Binay immediately got a deferment but it seems that everybody else in media here were stunned.

In one of the ABS-CBN telecasts, it was even mentioned that the P-Noy government may have surrendered to China our claims to the oil-rich Spratlys, just to have that deferment. That was baseless just as it was stupid. Why will P-Noy cede something as valuable as the Spratlys to China when it is very clear that Filipinos do not blame the government for the death sentences of the three OFWs? Do you see the son of Ninoy and Cory Aquino doing that?

A top Asian diplomat I met last February 21 at the book launch of Ambassador (to ASEAN) Menito Villacorta provided a very good insight to why China allowed a deferment. This top Asian diplomat represents a country with extensive dealings with China over several centuries.

His take on China's favorable decision to defer the executions was that it China's way of balancing recent hard line positions that they have taken against the P-Noy government, especially after the August 23, 2010 Manila Hostage Crisis. China, he explained, has a keen interest in the Philippines and would not want to push P-Noy into the exclusive embrace of the US.

I think P-Noy knew this which is why he was so bold to state that the executions will test the limits of Philippine-China relations. He did not have to concede anything like the Spratlys to China. China would have been happy if we did not allow the US to establish an offensive military capability in Mindanao and other parts of our country which can be used against China. It is also for our own good that the US does not get to establish that offensive military capability here lest we become the ground zero of a US-China conflict.

Up to the mid-1980s, television newscasts did not adopt this format which I call the "tabloidization" of the TV news. In pursuit of bigger ratings and therefore ad revenue, it was decided to pattern the TV news after the high circulating tabloids. That means putting too much weight on showbiz, crime, melodrama and scandal.

Television being the highest source of news now, are you surprised that we are suffering from a serious Information Gap?

http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=661292&publicationSubCategoryId=64

hmmm... very interesting.. 
but am not buying it..
from someone who works for GMA 7, INQ7... lol! nice try!

[carpediem]

^ Yes of course I know. And he is a firm supporter of PNoy.

But to be objective, he did make a few good points.

[judE_Law]

^ Yes of course I know. And he is a firm supporter of PNoy.

But to be objective, he did make a few good points.

actually, the only thing clear to me  in that article is that he's trying to destroy the reputation of tv patrol.
i was just wondering why he keeps on watching TV Patrol? lol!
did you not notice that at the first line he said that.. "the Philippine Media are on the cause why we as a country cannot get our act together."
i think he should have replaced media with TV Patrol .. baka mas maniwala pa ako sa kanya.

[carpediem]

^ True. He said Philippine media, but substantiate his claim by only giving TV Patrol as an example. But disregarding if there is hidden intentions or not by the columnist, we should try to get to the objective points.

[judE_Law]

^ True. He said Philippine media, but substantiate his claim by only giving TV Patrol as an example. But disregarding if there is hidden intentions or not by the columnist, we should try to get to the objective points.

haha.. nice example.. totally unbiased??!!

in my field..
which of course i know well, than some people who pretends to know it all..
attracting viewers is very important..
gaya ng kung paano gustong dumami ng SM ang mamimili sa kanila, kaya pati maliit na kanto ngayon may save more na.
kung papaano gustong maka-attract ng maraming customer ng BENCH kaya lahat yata ng artista ultimo sina Melai at Jason ginawang Modelo na.
if you think its a cheap hype tactics and yet you continously watch it.. what do you call yourself then?