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Makatarungan ba na harangin ng DOJ ang pag-alis ni CGMA ng bansa?

Started by judE_Law, November 16, 2011, 07:32:08 PM

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Makatarungan ba na harangin ng DOJ ang pag-alis ni CGMA ng bansa?

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vir

hahaha..panggulo lng..pansin ko kasi parepareho kau ng insights about this..e xempre pano magiging debate kung walang kontra..

..at talagang walang kumampi saken,hahaha..  ;D

magsama kayong lahat..joke!  :D

judE_Law


pong

siguro mas mauunawaan natin ang sitwasyon kung aalaman natin ang istruktura ng gobyerno. Tatlo kasi ang sangay nito na magkakapantay-pantay: executive, legislative at judiciary. Bagama't gusto ng executive branch na pigilin si GMA na umalis, at pwede naman ayon sa judiciary, last resort na nila siguro na kumbinsihin ang legislative -- para 2-1, hehe. Kung di man bumalik si arroyo pag-alis niya ng bansa, maaaring partly kasalanan natin dahil hinahayaan lang nating tratuhin tayo ng ganito. Sa tingin ko lang ah, kahit hatulan si gloria, mapapatawad at mapapatawad natin siya. Ganun naman tayo eh, grabe ang dali makalimot. Si erap nga, convicted plunderer pero 2nd pa sa 2010 elections. Grabe. Si marcos pa na halos sinaid ang kaban ng bayan, hindi naman nakulong. Si gloria pa kaya?! Masaklap lang talaga hindi nag-a-apply dito ang legal maxim na: dura lex, sed lex meaning "mahigpit ang batas, pero yun ang batas". Ang mga batas natin ay para lang sa sumusunod, pero pwede ka ring di sumunod. So para saan pa?

bajuy

wat will u feel kung ikaw ang nasa lagay ni gloria?

matanda na at may sakit kahit magtago yan sa ibang bansa mamatay din yan


ang taas na hahatol jan sa kasalanan niya..

kung si LORD nakapagpatawad.. tayo pa kaya TAO lang..

Peps

eh ano ngayon kung tumakas siya bakit ano ba akala nila pag na convict siya makukulong talaga siya? i papardon din siya kasi knowing how filipino thinks hindi papayag mga yun na makulong si GMA like what happened to Erap lalo na babae pa man din siya.

judE_Law

Quote from: otipeps on November 18, 2011, 12:57:56 AM
eh ano ngayon kung tumakas siya bakit ano ba akala nila pag na convict siya makukulong talaga siya? i papardon din siya kasi knowing how filipino thinks hindi papayag mga yun na makulong si GMA like what happened to Erap lalo na babae pa man din siya.

well, sa term ni Aquino? i doubt kung mapa-pardon siya.. kung susumahin kasi, napaka-laki ng galit ng mga Aquino kay Gloria dahil sa dami ng mga pabor na hindi pinagbigyan ng noo'y pangulong Arroyo, at mga desisyong nakasakit ng husto sa kanila.



vir

Quote from: judE_Law on November 17, 2011, 08:44:05 PM
if you can't beat us.. join us! lol! ;D


kung jumoin agad ako,e di walang nangyaring debate,hahaha..

vir

tama kayong lahat,abangan natin ang mga susunod na kabanata..

bajuy

to XPGMA

sulat ka sa wish ko lang or IMBESTIGADOR

nagmamahal BAJUY  :D

pong

Quote from: bajuy on November 18, 2011, 12:13:57 AM
wat will u feel kung ikaw ang nasa lagay ni gloria?

matanda na at may sakit kahit magtago yan sa ibang bansa mamatay din yan


ang taas na hahatol jan sa kasalanan niya..

kung si LORD nakapagpatawad.. tayo pa kaya TAO lang..



sobrang mahabang usapin ito. pero naniniwala ako na hindi dapat pinaghahalo ang awa sa tao at awa sa bayan. kaya nga may secularization clause tayo sa Saligang Batas eh, though hindi nasasaad dito na ang paniniwala natin tungkol sa pagpapatawad ay sasaklawin ng batas ng tao. in short, iba ang batas ng Diyos sa batas ng tao.

(disclaimer: hindi po ito war of religions, please don't be misread)

>>ia-activate ko na yung adik mode ko<<
as i was saying, let me give you a glimpse in world history. France in the medieval times were so predominantly Catholic, they believed that the priests are the Lord on earth; and so, they have worshiped the Lord on earth as if they were the Lord in heaven. in addition, the royal family and the nobility, as well as the clergy, were particularly extravagant and lavish while there is widespread famine. if the people of France would have consumed and tolerated this kind of inequality and relied on the heavens for piety to themselves, they might not be esteemed for being one of the pioneers of democratic form of government.

and i don't apostatize in my thoughts when there is a conflict between divine and human law. i uphold my faith in everyday life. but what is happening right now does not correspond with compassion, it is derision of our human values.

judE_Law

^dahil adik ka pong.. dapat kasama ka sa Katol Boys.. hahaha...


grabe, the current admin is so pathetic!
minadali talaga ang pagsasampa ng kaso.. after 2 days lang matapos ang TRO ng SC sa WLO,  biglang nagkaroon ng kaso kay GMA.. hahahaha...

jazaustria

The Supreme Court en banc denied the motion of consideration filed by the Department of Justice thru the Office of Solicitor General today, thereby allowing the TRO to be implemented immediately... Ganyan kabilis ang hustisya kapag mga mayaman at makapangyarihan ang humahanap neto, pero pag ordinaryong mamamayan.. taon ang binibilang.. So kapag nakaalis ang pekeng dating pangulo.. dapat ang makulong sa mga kaso ni GMA eh ung 8 Justices na bumoto para sa TRO!

jazaustria

In the public debate, it's as if we are torn between two extremes: the legalistic, wherein we take Arroyo's word without inquiring into her truthfulness, and the common sense, wherein we recall all the times she cried wolf and evaded justice. That is a false dilemma. There is enough law to vindicate common sense. All that's needed is the audacity to vindicate justice.

One, there are "discrepancies" in Arroyo's versions of her medical condition. Initially, her doctor certifies that she has "metabolic bone disease." The day after, a second doctor says that the "she may require a bone biopsy" to determine if she has that disease. Two days later, her third doctor's medical abstract doesn't mention the disease at all. Four days later, her doctors brief Health Secretary Enrique Ona without mentioning the disease at all, and instead speak of another problem, hypoparathyroidism.

Gloria's itinerary includes non-medical meetings: in New York for the Clinton Global Initiative and in Geneva for the International Commission against the Death Penalty. The DOJ asks: How can someone so sick have the energy for such meetings—"unless of course the medical treatment ... is not entirely necessary and urgent"? Stated plainly, you saw her photo with the neck braces and other contraptions, so will she shake hands with Bill Clinton wearing that brace?

the Supreme Court itself has ruled that the right to travel is not absolute. The Court has upheld the power of the Presidential Commission on Good Government to issue hold-departure orders against "persons [who are] known or suspected to be involved" as Marcos cronies. Yet that power was not explicitly granted in the PCGG's charter, and was merely implied from its power "to conduct investigation" and "restrain any [act] that may render moot and academic, or frustrate or otherwise make ineffectual [its] efforts."

If Arroyo goes to a non-extradition state and insists on staying for as long as she claims is medically necessary, Philippine courts become powerless to bring her before the bar of justice. Since all complaints against her are non-bailable, her promise to return, says the DOJ, "without any form of guarantee whatsoever is practically worthless." "The attainment of justice cannot depend on such flimsy guarantees . . . her mere say-so that she will return, when the temptation to simply escape" stares us in the face.


sakit na ng ulo ko.... minasn lang yan hehe..... no more comments. nabadtrip lang ako kay arroyo! pasenxa na!

jazaustria


pong

^^galit na si jaz LOLs

Quote from: judE_Law on November 18, 2011, 01:48:09 PM
^dahil adik ka pong.. dapat kasama ka sa Katol Boys.. hahaha...

Robitussin Boy ako hehe