IS PHILIPPINES ready for POSITIVE CHANGE under DUTERTE's admin?

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jackxtwist

Quote from: den0saur on September 18, 2017, 10:45:39 AM
Daming nangyayari recently. Nakakasama ng loob. You know what's really disconcerting is the fact that our fellow Filipinos who idolize the President so much, are actually okay with killings for as long as there are changes in the system. Yes there are positive changes pero that does not make it okay to kill. Ganun kasimple. Salamat sa mga bagong pinapatupad na batas pero FU for violating our human rights.

Sobrang scarred na ang mga kababayan natin they are willing to have anything just to get things done. The end justifies the means.

Quote from: bokalto on September 18, 2017, 09:28:13 PM
Yes, it is not ok to kill. Pero kung ang mamamatay ay kriminal, i don't mind. Especially mga sangkot sa droga.
Kung meron mang mga inosente na napapatay, nakakalungkot.
Change is a beautiful thing but going through it is not.

Nakakalungkot na ganito ang sentimyento ng mga tao. Wala naman tayo sa gyera bakit may pinapatay na Pilipino?

Nalulungkot tayo kasi malayo sa atin yung patayan. Pero paano kung malapit? October last year, a neighbor, who's obviously not a drug addict or a runner, was killed by armed men. Maling tao yung napatay nila. The shooting was a block away from us.

I strongly believe that drugs is not the problem. May issue ang tao kaya sya nagdo-droga. Kahirapan? Depresyon? Bakit hindi iyon ang atakihin? We are treating the symptom not the disease itself. I have yet to hear in the new any policy by the administration regarding this.

Quote from: bokalto on September 18, 2017, 09:28:13 PM
I just hope na maging receptive na lang ang mga tao sa pinapatupad ng administration.

You can't be receptive when your own countrymen is getting killed without justice being served. Ang hustisya ay wala sa kamay ng mga pulis. The role of the police is to enforce the policy. Unless it is the admin's policy to shoot alleged drug users then why not? Kung mabagal ang pag-usad ng hustisya, bakit hindi iyon ang atakihin ng administrasyon.

Quote from: bokalto on September 18, 2017, 09:28:13 PM
If you are not involve to any crimes at all, why worry?

Turns out, may cases ng mistaken identity, just what happened above. And anyone who has a gun can put a bullet on some guy he has political disagreements with.

PS. Walang magawa.

bokalto

Wala lang din magawa. I think ang hypocrite lang ngayon ng ibang Filipino na they all suddenly care about Human rights.
Why now? Dahil ba the admistration has declared war against drugs and there are criminals getting shot? Meh.
Kung meron mang napapatay na inosenteng tao, sa tingin nyo ba gusto yan mangyari ng pangulo?
Or sinasadya yan gawin ng mga against sa pangulo?

Naiisip ko buti na lang hindi ako masyado gullible sa mga news from the media.


"I strongly believe that drugs is not the problem. May issue ang tao kaya sya nagdo-droga. Kahirapan? Depresyon? Bakit hindi iyon ang atakihin? We are treating the symptom not the disease itself. I have yet to hear in the new any policy by the administration regarding this. "
-- Symptom? Hmmm. Yung fact na nag give-in ka sa droga, hindi yan fault ng society or status nya sa society. Choice yan ng tao. The fact the gumamit ka ng droga, yan na ang judgement mo sa buhay mo. I don't think na porket depressed ka, walang trabaho, mahirap ka ay sapat na rason yan to do drugs. Kaya hindi makatarungan na i-blame sa stado ng pilipinas ang paggamit ng droga ng isang tao. Tska I think alam na ng bawat PIlipino kahit noon pa na ang paggamit ng droga ay MASAMA. Kahit noon pa man, laganap na ang kaalaman about the effects of drugs. Kaya nga may M.A.D. noon dba? Ayan na ang ginawa dati ng mga nakalipas na administration, pero may nangyari ba? WALA dba? 70s, 80s, 90s.. matagal na sinusugpo ang droga sa pamamagitan ng information dissemination. Matagal na din ginagawan ng paraan ang pagkakaron ng maayos na buhay ang mga tao, pero ano problema? mga tao parin. hindi ang gobyerno.
So kung sino man ang sisisihin, hindi ang society na nakapaligid sa kanya, siya mismo.

jackxtwist

^^ I'll get back to you on this one. Ang dami ko bigla naisip can't organize my thoughts waaaaaah

bokalto

last post ko na yan regarding sa politics.
Ayoko na. haha. la din naman ako pake sa kanila. haha!

den0saur

Ako din. Parang unatras ang itlog ko. Iba pala pag may pamilya na. Yup. Umabot yung pag iisip ko hanggang dun sa point na magiging extreme activist ako. Hahahaha. But yeah, to each his own. Ang point ko lang, regardless of who the president is, basta kung tingin ko may maling ginagawa, I will call him out. And killing people, be them innocent or not, is one of them things I consider wrong.
Of course kung may tamang ginawa, then good. Congrats to him.
I'm just tired of people justifying the killings, kasi kahit saang anggulo ko tingnan, mali. Ganun ako ka naive.
yoqo nah qiqil nqo

jelo kid


jackxtwist

^right. it's not because you like the person. his/her/its policies are just wrong, morally, constitutionally wrong. Heck, I never liked any president. But there are a lot of policies that just  made sense. Gunning down poor drug users is just so low. If you can't stop Chinese drugs from getting in our beautiful country, then just kill all poor people para wala ng iyakan at hablahan at dramahan.

plus I have yet to hear/see a significant economic/fiscal policy from the current administration solving the country's deficit, low GDP per capita, among other issues. If there is any, their communications guy is doing a really crappy job for not steering conversation/media away from the bloody killings.

Bottom line: Drugs is not the problem.  To quote Riley from Sense8, "It's not the drugs that make a drug addict, it's the need to escape reality."

bokalto


Hindi ito about sa politics, kaya pwede ko i-post. hahaha!


"It's not the drugs that make a drug addict, it's the need to escape reality."
- Yep. Tama. Drugs is just one of the million options out there to escape reality. Bakit drugs ang pinili? Bakit Drugs? Dba hindi naman libre ang drugs? Ang mahal kaya ng Shabu..coccaine..heroin... So kung titignan natin, these people choose drugs. Kahit na alam nilang may ibang options to escape reality. These people choose their life to end in drugs. These people will not have my symphaty even they are gunned down. Ginusto nila yun eh. Alam naman nila na if they do drugs, something bad will happened but THEY STILL DO DRUGS.

Doing drugs is not like having a personal problem where they(drug-users) just want to be with themselves. No. Hindi ganun ang nangyayari. Ok lang sana kung yung mga nag-aadik eh nananahimik lang sa mga lungga nila eh. Pero ang hindi katanggap-tanggap eh yung mga karumaldumal nilang ginagawa sa mga inosenteng tao. Yun yon.
Hindi lang ako makapaniwala na some people have these "symphaty" sa mga drug-users. Like there is a broken Human Rights when police gun them down. ugh. But when people get killed, brutally murdered by these drug addicts, people just shrug and move on. Pero when addicts get killed, ayayay, nagmartsa pa sa EDSA. Kaines.

Sa panahon ngayon, hindi na ngayon applicable yung pabebe sa mga pinoy.
Kailangan ng firm at matapang na batas para sa pagbabago.
Matigas na ulo ng mga pilipino, yan ang totoo.
Yung simpleng pagpila nga, hindi masunod, ano pa kaya yung paggamit ng drugs.

Peps

go bokalto kaya mo yan, pag di mo na kaya sabihin mo lang sakin isususpend ko na mga accounts nila hahaha

bokalto

bwahahaha! No, i'm cool. Everyone's got their point. Kanya-kanya naman tayo ng mga pananaw sa mga bagay. :) Peace out!

jackxtwist

Quote from: Peps on September 25, 2017, 08:30:49 PM
go bokalto kaya mo yan, pag di mo na kaya sabihin mo lang sakin isususpend ko na mga accounts nila hahaha
juice ko pader pala 'tong nabangga ko. shatap na ako.  :-X :-X :-X

alam mo yang mga addict na yan dapat talaga pinapatay na lang eh. they know drugs is bad yet they still chose to get addicted to it. in the end, the society gets ruined. so they should be killed.

okay na ba? huwag nyo po ako i-ban or suspend. pls pls pls

chris_davao

dito nga samin, nililinis ang mga batang sukarap. HAHAHAHAHAHA

jackxtwist


jackxtwist

Quote from: bokalto on September 25, 2017, 09:27:34 AM

Hindi ito about sa politics, kaya pwede ko i-post. hahaha!


"It's not the drugs that make a drug addict, it's the need to escape reality."
- Yep. Tama. Drugs is just one of the million options out there to escape reality. Bakit drugs ang pinili? Bakit Drugs? Dba hindi naman libre ang drugs? Ang mahal kaya ng Shabu..coccaine..heroin... So kung titignan natin, these people choose drugs. Kahit na alam nilang may ibang options to escape reality. These people choose their life to end in drugs. These people will not have my symphaty even they are gunned down. Ginusto nila yun eh. Alam naman nila na if they do drugs, something bad will happened but THEY STILL DO DRUGS.

Doing drugs is not like having a personal problem where they(drug-users) just want to be with themselves. No. Hindi ganun ang nangyayari. Ok lang sana kung yung mga nag-aadik eh nananahimik lang sa mga lungga nila eh. Pero ang hindi katanggap-tanggap eh yung mga karumaldumal nilang ginagawa sa mga inosenteng tao. Yun yon.
Hindi lang ako makapaniwala na some people have these "symphaty" sa mga drug-users. Like there is a broken Human Rights when police gun them down. ugh. But when people get killed, brutally murdered by these drug addicts, people just shrug and move on. Pero when addicts get killed, ayayay, nagmartsa pa sa EDSA. Kaines.

Sa panahon ngayon, hindi na ngayon applicable yung pabebe sa mga pinoy.
Kailangan ng firm at matapang na batas para sa pagbabago.
Matigas na ulo ng mga pilipino, yan ang totoo.
Yung simpleng pagpila nga, hindi masunod, ano pa kaya yung paggamit ng drugs.

hindi talaga ako mapakali. sir. may I know, bakit po sobrang negative nyo regarding illegal drugs?

bokalto

bakit po sobrang negative nyo regarding illegal drugs?

hahahaha!
I can't believe that this question even exists.
Sorry pero natatawa lang talaga ako.